Re: SBS 2000 ISA and Outlook Express
From: Tony Su (anonymous_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 07/05/04
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Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 21:00:15 -0700
Confused one,
Sending and Receiving mail uses different protocols, so
it's possible to have support for one configured correctly
and the other not.
Skimming a few of the messages, I've tried to get a
picture of your situation and what your current problem
is...
Regardless how you pull mail to your mail clients, your
outbound mail should be sent through either Exchange or a
remote SMTP server. It's possible but rare for an SBS
network to configure an alternative SMTP server in the
LAN, so we won't discuss how that works.
<Sending through Exchange>
If your OE mail client is configured with Exchange (SBS)
as your outbound SMTP server, then you need to
configure "Anonymous" support because POP and IMAP clients
pass different credentials than your Windows Domain.
Note that if you configure the following, it does not
matter whether your mail client pulls mail from Exchange,
Exchange will send mail for all your mail clients if
configured properly.
Exchange System Manager >... > Protocols > SMTP > Virtual
Server > ... > Relay
Configure an entry that supports the IP address range of
your clients.
<Remote SMTP Server>
Most likely your ISP's SMTP server. Might be a remote SMTP
server associated with a mail service.
Because your outbound SMTP traffic has to cross your FW to
the Internet, you need to enable the SMTP Client (not
Server) protocol in your Protocol Rule(s) and ensure a
Site & Content rule permits access to the remote Server.
This should not require a FW client (as mentioned in this
thread) since by default SBS clients are configured with
SNAT support.
HTH and resolves your confusion,
Tony Su
>-----Original Message-----
>why would I be able to rec email but not send it
>
>
>"Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]"
<marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com> wrote in message
>news:ONxRWriYEHA.2456@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> From the server, can you telnet to your ISP's
mailserver on port 25?
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Marina
>> Microsoft SBS-MVP
>>
>> "Confused One" <nomuchmail@goingwell.com> schreef in
bericht
>> news:OJjESHiYEHA.2840@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> > hi Marina
>> >
>> > I have tried outlook express on the server with the
isp mail domain and
>ip
>> > address but neither worked.
>> >
>> > Any other ideas.
>> >
>> > yet again all seems to be ok rec emails just can't
send
>> >
>> >
>> > "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]"
<marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com> wrote in
>> message
>> > news:%23VpehWhYEHA.1356@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> > > If that doesn't work, put in the server-IP.
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Regards,
>> > >
>> > > Marina
>> > > Microsoft SBS-MVP
>> > >
>> > > "Confused One" <nomuchmail@goingwell.com> schreef
in bericht
>> > > news:%23aYtPugYEHA.2388@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> > > > On the outgoing smtp server for outlook express I
have got the smtp
>> > server
>> > > > of my isp.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]"
<marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com> wrote in
>> > > message
>> > > > news:%23kdo8vcYEHA.3988@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> > > > > That why I want you to try from the server, to
see if it is being
>> > > stopped
>> > > > on
>> > > > > the server or router. What did you fill in on
the outgoing smtp
>> server
>> > > in
>> > > > > Outlook Express?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > Regards,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Marina
>> > > > > Microsoft SBS-MVP
>> > > > >
>> > > > > "Confused One" <nomuchmail@goingwell.com>
schreef in bericht
>> > > > > news:OW6tipcYEHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> > > > > > Hey Marina
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I have the firewall client running on the
workstation and
>> > > autodiscovery
>> > > > is
>> > > > > > turned off.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > not sure about getting outlook exp to work on
the server but
>will
>> > try.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > How come I can rec but not send emails
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I have run the CEICW wizard
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]"
<marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com>
>wrote
>> in
>> > > > > message
>> > > > > > news:%
2364VxjcYEHA.2016@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> > > > > > > Presuming you are using ISA, you must have
the Firewall Client
>> > > > installed
>> > > > > > on
>> > > > > > > the workstations and make sure they are
pointing to the
>> servername
>> > > and
>> > > > > > > 'autodiscovery' should be turned off.
>> > > > > > > Can you get Outlook Express to work from
the server?
>> > > > > > > If you are changing the internet
connection, have you rerun
>the
>> > > CEICW
>> > > > > > > wizard?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > Regards,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Marina
>> > > > > > > Microsoft SBS-MVP
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > "Confused One" <nomuchmail@goingwell.com>
schreef in bericht
>> > > > > > > news:%23%
23ss3WcYEHA.3596@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> > > > > > > > hi Marina
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > 1. The reason is that the guys want to
keep some thing
>> seperate
>> > > for
>> > > > > > > another
>> > > > > > > > business and they are used to doing it
this way.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > 2. basically it either times out or we
get the normal
>message
>> in
>> > > > > outlook
>> > > > > > > > express when you don't have a connection.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > 3. We the reason for these question is
that we were using
>ADSL
>> > and
>> > > > the
>> > > > > > > ADSL
>> > > > > > > > Modem/Router was being used to share
internet and we didn't
>> have
>> > > any
>> > > > > > > > problems because we were bypassing ISA.
However our ADSL is
>> > down
>> > > > due
>> > > > > to
>> > > > > > > ISP
>> > > > > > > > hardware failure and we need to get the
dial up working.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Hope you can help :)
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]"
<marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com>
>> > wrote
>> > > in
>> > > > > > > message
>> > > > > > > >
news:uXsE1ScYEHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> > > > > > > > > My first question would be: why don't
you want to use
>> > Microsoft
>> > > > > > Outlook?
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > What errormessage do you get? Does it
work from the
>server?
>> > How
>> > > > are
>> > > > > > you
>> > > > > > > > > connecting to the internet?
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > > > Regards,
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Marina
>> > > > > > > > > Microsoft SBS-MVP
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > "Confused One"
<nomuchmail@goingwell.com> schreef in
>bericht
>> > > > > > > > > news:%
23JacawbYEHA.3420@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> > > > > > > > > > Hi Mariette
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Yes I have installed the client on
the workstation it
>> didn't
>> > > not
>> > > > > > help
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > "Mariette Knap [SBS MVP]"
><mariette@smallbizserver.local>
>> > > wrote
>> > > > in
>> > > > > > > > message
>> > > > > > > > > >
news:eoKePoaYEHA.2544@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> > > > > > > > > > > In
news:uSFSihZYEHA.3420@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl,
>> > > > > > > > > > > Confused One
<nomuchmail@goingwell.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Our current configuration is
SBS2000 with exchange
>> using
>> > > the
>> > > > > pop
>> > > > > > > > > > > > connector to connect to our isp
and workstations are
>> > > running
>> > > > > > > Windows
>> > > > > > > > > > > > 2000 Professional.
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > We have a couple of people who
want to run outlook
>> > express
>> > > > to
>> > > > > > send
>> > > > > > > > and
>> > > > > > > > > > > > receive emails I found a
tutorial on how to do this
>> but
>> > > it
>> > > > > only
>> > > > > > > > > > > > seems to allow me to receive but
not send.
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > Did you install the Firewall Client
on the
>workstations?
>> > > That
>> > > > > > should
>> > > > > > > > > > > normally fix it.
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > > > > > Mariėtte Knap - MVP
>> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.smallbizserver.net
>> > > > > > > > > > > Take part in SBS forum:
>> > > > > > > > > > >
http://www.smallbizserver.net/Default.aspx?tabid=154
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