Re: Domain Logon Speed
From: Chad A. Gross [SBS MVP] (chad.gross_at_laytonflower.nospam.com)
Date: 06/22/04
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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 08:51:46 -0500
It's so nice when others experience the same phenomena as I . . . it
provides a welcome (albeit short) respit from my usual day-to-day insanity
:^)
-- Chad A. Gross - SBS MVP SBS ROCKS! www.msmvps.com/cgross www.gosbs.org Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote: > Chad A. Gross [SBS MVP] wrote: >> Believe it or not, I have a few clients with Dell PowerEdge 2600 >> servers and Dell PowerConnect switches . . . setting the nics to >> anything besides AutoSense absolutely kills network performance >> (we're talking 100 full duplex acting like 14.4 dialup) . . . I >> usually only adjust nics away from autosense if I'm experiencing >> network issues - an overwhelming majority of my SBS2k3 sites are >> happily set to autosense with no issues . . . > > Funnily enough, the only switches I have ever had problems using > hard-coded settings are PowerConnects. Everything else seems to work > a lot better without autosense. On the Dell switches (rebadged Cisco > IOS I think?) we ended up locking down the ports on the switch > themselves and letting the clients use autosense.... > >> >> >> Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote: >>> Marina Roos [SBS-MVP] wrote: >>>> Hi Michael, >>>> >>>> You don't need to lock down the speed always, but if you have XP >>>> clients, it sometimes helps to do this. Personally I haven't had >>>> the need yet to set those nics on anything but autosense, but if >>>> you experience slowness, it can help to put XP nics on anything but >>>> autosense. >>> >>> Must respectfully disagree. The OS really doesn't have anything to >>> do with it - with any OS, any NIC, autosense can be a major problem >>> - >>> the NIC will often "flop" back and forth between speeds while trying >>> to make a connection. I use autosense only when troubleshooting a >>> connection....always lock down the settings on all NICs and you >>> won't have that problem. If you can lock down the switch ports at >>> the same setting, even better. >>> >>>> Check out www.smallbizserver.net, SBS 2000, Workstations >>>> for some more information. >>>> >>>> >>>> "Harlequin" <michael.mason@arraspeople.co.uk> schreef in bericht >>>> news:eKy3Hq1VEHA.584@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >>>>> Thanks Marina, Lawntech. >>>>> >>>>> Once in the new offices I certainly will be using a "formal" >>>>> network infrastructure. 2 NICs, DHCP and all the other things >>>>> suggested in this newsgroup. >>>>> >>>>> One question though if you don't mind: >>>>> >>>>> Why would I need to lock down resources to "specific NIC >>>>> speed/duplex setting"...? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ----------------------------- >>>>> Michael Mason >>>>> Arras People >>>>> www.arraspeople.co.uk >>>>> ----------------------------- >>>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" >>>>> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> wrote >>>>> in message news:eQdwyuxVEHA.2696@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Harlequin wrote: >>>>>>> Thanks Marina. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Once we move and I deploy the server "For Real" I'm considering >>>>>>> self assigned IP addresses. Do you think this would have any >>>>>>> benefits or would you simply allow DHCP to manage everything...? >>>>>> >>>>>> Self assigned? As in, statics? No way. Use DHCP from the SBS >>>>>> server....statics should be used only for servers, network >>>>>> devices, & printers (even for the latter, you could use DHCP >>>>>> reservations). The days of >>>>>> keeping track of IP addresses with a spreadsheet are over, my >>>>>> friend, and they won't be missed by me! >>>>>> >>>>>> What Marina was getting at is that in AD, since everything relies >>>>>> *very* heavily on DNS, you must specify that all servers and >>>>>> workstations specify *only* the internal AD-integrated DNS >>>>>> server's IP address in their network settings. The AD-integrated >>>>>> DNS server should be set up with forwarders to your ISP's DNS >>>>>> servers for external resolution. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would also suggest that you lock down all servers & >>>>>> workstations >>>>>> at a specific NIC speed/duplex setting - don't use autosense >>>>>> anywhere. If you're using a hub, get a good switch instead. If >>>>>> you can afford it, get a managed switch & lock down the ports to >>>>>> the >>>>>> same speed/duplex setting as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> In addition, if you use roaming profiles, make sure the profiles >>>>>> are tiny. Redirect My Documents to the users' home directories - >>>>>> via group policy folder redirection or manually set per profile, >>>>>> as you wish. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Michael, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Check the ipconfig/all on the clients. Everything should point >>>>>>>> to the server-IP. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Marina >>>>>>>> Microsoft SBS-MVP >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Harlequin" <michael.mason@arraspeople.co.uk> schreef in >>>>>>>> bericht news:%23hPQJIxVEHA.2696@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> Hi all >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hopefully another quickie... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've noticed that when users logon to the domain it takes a >>>>>>>>> while, I mean "Go make a cup of coffee" while. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I hope this is down to the current infrastructure, >>>>>>>>> non-structured 10 Mb ps network. However, I'd still be >>>>>>>>> interested in any tips >>>>>>>>> anyone has for speeding up a domain logon. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As an aside: one user referred to something they saw as being >>>>>>>>> "Nearly as slow as logging on to 'Mick's' domain". That >>>>>>>>> certainly made me think... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> ----------------------------- >>>>>>>>> Michael Mason >>>>>>>>> Arras People >>>>>>>>> www.arraspeople.co.uk >>>>>>>>> -----------------------------
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