Re: NAT on SBS2003 not working

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From: Mike R (research_at_rollesolutions.com)
Date: 06/15/04 

Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 18:27:06 -0700

Man I'm over here laughing...not at you...but because I've been there. Only
thing is that you are a much more patient person than me. I walk around the
office cussing and preparing to throw the equipment out the window.

I would say try to undo any changes you may have made and re-run the ceicw
and really watch every selection. My first time around the wizard kept
wanting to make the internal adapter the external adapter and would fail
unless I let it do what it wanted to do. Turned out to be a STUPID thing
like having a gateway on both NICS was causing it. I was positively growling
at myself on that one.

"Randall Arnold" <rgarnold@cathartis.com_> wrote in message
news:uqF2SYmUEHA.1036@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> -IPCONFIG shown at end of message.
>
> -Zyxel Prestige 600 DSL modem using PPPoE. Note that I never did install
> RasPPPoE, even though I at one time intended to try it.
>
> -I was never given information on configuring the modem by earthlink.
>
> -I need to clarify (I misled you): at the very beginning, I *did* follow
the
> To-Do list and the standard wizards. It was only upon this attempt
failing
> that I began looking at other options. When I first ran the wizards
> (accepting all defaults), everything *looked* fine, and I very expectantly
> skipped over to the client PC, fully anticipating internet access just as
I
> had enjoyed with the SMC router. Nope. Nada. Even though the server was
> seeing the 'net and the client had a good IP. At that point I deleted NAT
> and tried again-- same result. Next, I consulted the MSKB and followed
the
> steps there. When that failed, I hit the internet for help. Called my
MCSE
> brother (who obviously misinformed me). When all else failed, I came
here.
> So far, nothing I've tried based on any suggestions has produced a working
> shared internet. What I had assumed would be a nice little evening task
has
> turned into a debacle. :(
>
> I should note that I tried getting NAT to work on W2K advanced server 3
> years ago (before I bought the router), and met the same (lack of)
results.
> At that time, too, I went by all the defaults and could never the internet
> connection shared... so I guess it must be ME although I don't get that.
> Seems to me that if I'm going "by the book" the darned thing should work
> regardless of the nut behind the wheel.
>
> I should also note that running repair on the NIC connections results in
the
> error "ARP cache could not be flushed" or somesuch. Have not found a
> resolution to that.
>
> Anyway, here's the IPCONFIG. Gateway info is probably wrong because I get
> conflicting advice on what the values should be and I keep experimenting,
> hoping to fix this. My suspicion is that the Gateway info is probably the
> key culprit in this failing.
>
> -------------------------------------
>
> Windows IP Configuration
>
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : fs1
> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : cathartis.local
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : cathartis.local
>
> Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Macronix MX987xx Family Fast
Ethernet
> Ada
> pter
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-80-C6-F7-28-2C
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.199
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.199
> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.199
>
> Ethernet adapter DSL Modem Connection:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Macronix MX98715-Based Ethernet
> Adapter (
> Generic)
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-80-C6-F2-2B-6C
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.3.2
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.199
> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
>
> PPP adapter Earthlink DSL:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.166.204.21
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 207.69.188.185
> 207.69.188.186
> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
>
>
>
>
> "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@your.nellie> wrote in message
> news:ehTa4AfUEHA.2520@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > AHAHHHH
> >
> > the router died, I missed that bit.
> >
> > OK, so you've changed the external SBS IP, to what? Please give us
the
> > current ipconfig from the server.
> >
> > What manufacturer/model modem?
> > Does your ADSL ISP require PPPoE/PPPoA? (I know RASPPPoE has been
> > installed but I don't know if it's necessary.)
> > Is the modem available via IP address (for configuration)? What IP?
> (NO,
> > not your public IP, I don't want to configure it remotely I just want to
> > establish wether you can access/configure it locally).
> >
> > It would have been easy, if you had followed the SBS procedure, but
> you
> > seem to have used a generic W2K3 procedure. Repeat after me 'I will use
> the
> > "To-Do" list' (the SBS mantra :-)
> >
> > "Randall Arnold" <rgarnold@cathartis.com_> wrote in message
> > news:%23Z$MUscUEHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > No no-- the router died! That was the whole rationale behiond trying
to
> > use
> > > NAT. My stupid hope was, since I already had the server going when
the
> > > router died, all I had to do was move the DSL modem over to it (it had
> > been
> > > on a client) and breeze through the NAT wizard. I originally followed
> > > instructions on the MSKB and the SBS2003 Help (which I've found to be
> > > fatally flawed).
> > >
> > > And yes I have a switch-- all computers and one printer presently
> connect
> > to
> > > it.
> > >
> > > Anyway, I followed your advice, and after changing the external NIC IP
> > > address, DHCP services came back. Still not sure why DHCP claimed the
> > > external NIC had the same address as internal, when it most certainly
> did
> > > not, but I'm not worried about it now. BUT-- I'm back to square one.
> > Once
> > > again the server is working fine (I had to disable RRAS and re-enable
it
> > > again), and has a great connection to the internet-- but the client
> > doesn't
> > > see it. I can log into the server, I can retrieve pop3 email, I can
> > access
> > > shares, etc-- just no shared internet. I just don't get it.
> > >
> > > Randall Arnold
> > >
> > > "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@your.nellie> wrote in message
> > > news:OZQaDDcUEHA.1020@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > but you already have a router!
> > > > do you have a switch?
> > > >
> > > > "Randall Arnold" <rgarnold@cathartis.com_> wrote in message
> > > > news:eRp$Y8bUEHA.1048@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Thanks Marina.
> > > > >
> > > > > I couldn't find a decent book on SBS2003 at B & N today. I got
the
> > > > closest
> > > > > thing that went into decent detail. But thanks for the heads up
on
> > > ICS--
> > > > I
> > > > > just wish the SBS2003 Help explained that it was unavailable
instead
> > of
> > > > > showing that it is...grrr.
> > > > >
> > > > > I posted the IPCONFIG /all in another post, but it's kinda moot
now.
> > > See
> > > > my
> > > > > reply to Susan. The whole point was to have shared net back up by
> > > tonight
> > > > > and that didn't happen, so we'll have to get by until I can pick
up
> a
> > > > > router. It's obvious by now I'm too thick to figure out getting
NAT
> > > > > working.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks though.
> > > > >
> > > > > Randall Arnold
> > > > >
> > > > > "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" <marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com> wrote
in
> > > > message
> > > > > news:#dTRtmZUEHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > Hi Randall,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Both servernics should have static IP's. The ranges should be
> > > different
> > > > > > however. Make sure that DNS on the servernics is *only* pointing
> to
> > > the
> > > > > > server-IP. The ISP-DNS numbers should be set in tab Forwarders
of
> > your
> > > > > > DNS-server.
> > > > > > Post the ipconfig/all from the server.
> > > > > > Rerun CEICW.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BTW: you have bought the wrong book. SBS 2003 is not W2k3
server.
> It
> > > is
> > > > > > based on that, but it is a lot more. SBS doesn't do ICS.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Marina
> > > > > > Microsoft SBS-MVP
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Randall Arnold" <rgarnold@cathartis.com_> schreef in bericht
> > > > > > news:uoyRDeZUEHA.644@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > Well, I've run that wizard three times so far, and it hasn't
> done
> > > the
> > > > > > trick.
> > > > > > > :(
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm starting to think my MCSE brother gave me bad advice on
the
> > NIC
> > > > > going
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > the DSL modem-- he said let it get an IP from earthlink.
> However,
> > I
> > > > > pored
> > > > > > > through some books today and they all agree that the NIC IP
> should
> > > be
> > > > > > within
> > > > > > > the same range as those provided by local DHCP (I'm using
class
> 3
> > > > > > > addresses). So I'll be changing that next.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm also perplexed at why ICS isn't showing. The book I
bought
> > > (Teach
> > > > > > > yourself Windows Server 2003) goes into decent detail and
> explains
> > > > that
> > > > > > > there are three methods of sharing the connection: ICS, NAT
and
> > ISA
> > > > > Server
> > > > > > > (in order of lower to greater security). I would like to test
> ICS
> > > > since
> > > > > > > it's the easiest to configure, but it isn't even available on
my
> > > > server
> > > > > > > right now. I'm going to check the installed components next
and
> > see
> > > > if
> > > > > > > that's where the problem lies, but there's skimpy info on ICS
in
> > > every
> > > > > > book
> > > > > > > I've seen (and the Help) so if that's not the case I'm
stumped.
> > ISA
> > > > > > Server
> > > > > > > is never mentioned in any book I've seen so far that even
> > addresses
> > > > home
> > > > > > > offices. In fact, that's what I'd really like to find: a big
> fat
> > > book
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > using SBS2003 in a home office environ. Maybe I'll check
> > Amazon...
> > > > but
> > > > > > I'd
> > > > > > > sure like to get this shared network back up tonight!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Randall Arnold
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz SBS Rocks [MVP] "
> > > <sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
> > > > > > wrote
> > > > > > > in message news:#GtIw4WUEHA.2544@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > That's a Windows 2003 article. You are running the internet
> > > > > connection
> > > > > > > > wizard right? It does all this stuff for you.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Forget that KB and follow the CEICW wizard [see the connect
to
> > the
> > > > > > > > internet wizard under the to do list?]
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Forget this KB... throw it out the window. You don't need
> this.
> > > > Run
> > > > > > > > the wizard.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324264&Product=sbserv2003
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Randall Arnold wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yeah, Frank, that's the setup I had before-- like I said,
> the
> > > > modem
> > > > > > died
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > couple of days ago and I'm scrambling to get something
> working
> > > > now.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The comunication between NIC and DSL: modem isn't an
issue.
> > In
> > > > > fact,
> > > > > > > right
> > > > > > > > > after logging in after reboot I'm conencted (it's that
> > > seamless).
> > > > > > From
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > server I can access the internet and newsgroups just fine
> > > > > (obviously--
> > > > > > > lol).
> > > > > > > > > It's just that the clients aren't seeing the server's
> > > connection.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I swear I've followed Microsoft's instructions as
correctly
> as
> > I
> > > > can
> > > > > > > figure.
> > > > > > > > > There are a few places where their steps omit some detail
> that
> > > may
> > > > > or
> > > > > > > may
> > > > > > > > > not be crucial (such as the vague instructions regarding
DNS
> > > > > > forwarders:
> > > > > > > > > "type ANY remote IP address")-- I don't know. But the
setup
> > > Susan
> > > > > > > provided
> > > > > > > > > is vastly different than what's in the MSKB and Help (main
> KB
> > > > > article
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > 324264). I had an SBS2000 Best Practices book that
covered
> > this
> > > > in
> > > > > > > great
> > > > > > > > > detail, but a former employer kept it.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'll try Susan's method today and see how that goes.
> Thanks.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Randall Arnold
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Frank McCallister" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
> > wrote
> > > in
> > > > > > > message
> > > > > > > > > news:#ncVfyVUEHA.2988@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>Hi Randall
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>I have had some difficulty with PPPoE connections direct
> from
> > > > server
> > > > > > NIC
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>DSL modem due to timing errors on server restart with
> > connection
> > > > > being
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>established quick enough. Note the time and do a server
> > restart.
> > > > > Look
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>event viewers for any Binding errors after the restart. I
> > always
> > > > put
> > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > >>inexpensive router between the DSL modem and the NIC for
two
> > > > > purposes.
> > > > > > > It
> > > > > > > > >>maintains the DSL connection during restarts and it gives
> your
> > > > > > External
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > NIC
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>a static IP address. It can also provede some additional
> > > Firewall
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > protection
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>but you have to be careful with ports in that case.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>Frank
> > > > > > > > >>"Randall Arnold" <rgarnold@cathartis.com_> wrote in
message
> > > > > > > > >>news:ey5cwRRUEHA.4048@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>First one is the external NIC. Second one is the actual
> > PPPOE
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > connector.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>I
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>found it strange that I needed it setup this way, but
> > internet
> > > > > access
> > > > > > > > >>>wouldn't work any other way. Both internal and external
> NIC
> > > > > > connectors
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>were
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>established during Windows Setup, and the broadband
(pppoe)
> > > > > connector
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>>setup by the email & internet connection wizard. Once
the
> > > > > Broadband
> > > > > > > > >>>connector was setup, internet access was immediately
> > available.
> > > > I
> > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > >>>continued following the MSKB instructions for routing and
> NAT
> > > > but,
> > > > > as
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>noted,
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>no access was available to clients when I was done even
> > though
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > server
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>>had full access.
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>I looked at your diagram for 2 NICs, ISA, RasPPPOE and no
> > > router
> > > > > (my
> > > > > > > > >>>situation) and see several differences between it and
what
> > the
> > > > MSKB
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >>>SBS2003 Help articles were recommending. Tomorrow I'll
> scrap
> > > > this
> > > > > > > third
> > > > > > > > >>>attempt at doing it the Microsoft way and give your
method
> a
> > > try.
> > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > > >>>surprised at the need for RasPPPOE given that the
> capability
> > is
> > > > > > > built-in
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>to
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>SBS2003 but maybe it's the built-in service that's the
> > culprit
> > > > > here.
> > > > > > > Am
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>>correct in assuming the NAT stuff isn't needed with your
> > setup?
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>Thanks,
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>Randall Arnold
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>"Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]"
> > > > > > <sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
> > > > > > > > >>>wrote in message
> > news:#eb$fHRUEHA.2716@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>Ethernet adapter DSL Modem Connection:
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > > > > > > > >>>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Macronix
> > MX98715-Based
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ethernet
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>>>Adapter (
> > > > > > > > >>>>Generic)
> > > > > > > > >>>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . :
00-80-C6-F2-2B-6C
> > > > > > > > >>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> > > > > > > > >>>> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> > > > > > > > >>>> Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.233.231
> > > > > > > > >>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
> > > > > > > > >>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> > > > > > > > >>>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 207.69.188.185
> > > > > > > > >>>> 207.69.188.186
> > > > > > > > >>>> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>PPP adapter Small Business Broadband Connection 1:
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > > > > > > > >>>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP)
> > > Interface
> > > > > > > > >>>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . :
00-53-45-00-00-00
> > > > > > > > >>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> > > > > > > > >>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.166.204.29
> > > > > > > > >>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
> > > > > > > > >>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 68.166.204.1
> > > > > > > > >>>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 207.69.188.185
> > > > > > > > >>>> 207.69.188.186
> > > > > > > > >>>> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>What are those two?
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>Randall Arnold wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>2 adapters (see original post). Thanks for the link--
> I'll
> > > > give
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>>one a
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>shot. I'm getting desperate...
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>Randall Arnold
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>"Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]"
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >><sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>wrote in message
> > > news:O5U3F9QUEHA.3976@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>How many adapters are on this Server?
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>And Mariette's site is offline right now...
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>http://www.sbslinks.com/network.htm
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>Try those pictures.... pick a 2 nic SBS 2000 setup.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>Randall Arnold wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Frank:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>I set the server high because it was a late addition
to
> > the
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > network.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>I
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>was
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>running 3 clients serviced by an SMC Barricade router
> > with
> > > no
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > server
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>at
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>all
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>and 2 networked printers. I recently built the
server
> > and
> > > > > added
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>in;
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>I
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>selected .199 because it was well out of the range of
> IPs
> > > > being
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > used
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>at
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>time (I may change it though; I blocked out the lower
> 10
> > > > > > numbers).
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>The
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>SMC
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>router just bought the farm and I'm scrambling to get
> > > > internet
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > access
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>>>>back
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>to the clients, hopefully w/o buying another
router...
> > but
> > > > > that's
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>looking
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>doubtful right now.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Server IPCONFIG as follows (note that I may have some
> > > > portions
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>misconfigured
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>due to experimentation when default settings wouldn't
> > > work):
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>---------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Windows IP Configuration
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : fs1
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : cathartis.local
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : cathartis.local
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>PPP adapter RAS Server (Dial In) Interface:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP)
> > > > Interface
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . :
00-53-45-00-00-00
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.11
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Macronix
MX987xx
> > > Family
> > > > > > Fast
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>Ethernet
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Ada
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>pter
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . :
00-80-C6-F7-28-2C
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.199
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.199
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.199
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Ethernet adapter DSL Modem Connection:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Macronix
> > > MX98715-Based
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>Ethernet
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Adapter (
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Generic)
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . :
00-80-C6-F2-2B-6C
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.233.231
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 207.69.188.185
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> 207.69.188.186
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>PPP adapter Small Business Broadband Connection 1:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP)
> > > > Interface
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . :
00-53-45-00-00-00
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.166.204.29
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 68.166.204.1
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 207.69.188.185
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> 207.69.188.186
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>--------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Test client 1 IPCONFIG:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>-------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Windows IP Configuration
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : pc2
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : cathartis.local
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : cathartis.local
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : cathartis.local
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Description . . . . . . . . . . . : SiS 900 PCI Fast
> > > Ethernet
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Adapter
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0A-E6-B8-A8-4C
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.82
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.199
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.199
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.199
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.199
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, June
12,
> > 2004
> > > > > > 6:46:21
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>PM
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, June 20,
> 2004
> > > > > 6:46:21
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > PM
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>--
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>--------
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>I am also testing another WinXP client, but it's IP
> info
> > is
> > > > so
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>bizarre
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>I'm
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>not even messing with it right now.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>I can't see anything in this list that would prevent
> the
> > > > client
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>connecting. In fact, the client's info is virtually
> > > > unchanged
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>when
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>it
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>was workign with the hardware router (emphasis on
> > > "working").
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Hope this helps though...
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Randall Arnold
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>"Frank McCallister"
> <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
> > > > wrote
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>message
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>news:#GnwaWQUEHA.3988@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>Hi Randall
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>Post your ipconfig /all from the server and one of
> your
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>Workstations.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>Curious why you set your server so high an IP (.199)
?
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>Frank McCallister
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>COMPUMAC
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>"Randall Arnold" <rgarnold@cathartis.com_> wrote in
> > > message
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>news:uyBrqKQUEHA.2028@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>Also, as I noted in another post, I get an error
when
> > > > trying
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>connect
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>that site:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>DotNetNuke Upgrade Error
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>The Assembly Version ( [ASSEMBLYVERSION] ) does not
> > match
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>Database
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>Version ( [DATABASEVERSION] )
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>ERROR: Could not connect to database.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>SQL Server does not exist or access denied.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>Continue
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>Randall Arnold
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>"Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]"
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>><sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>wrote in message
> > > > > news:uZgz2FQUEHA.2484@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>Let them pick up their DHCP address from the
server.
> > > They
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > aren't
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>pointing their DNS to the server and thus can't
find
> > the
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > internet
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>www.smallbizserver.net is a great resource.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>Randall Arnold wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>I'm having the most difficult time trying to
share
> my
> > > > > > internet
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>connection on
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>Small Business Server 2003.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>I have the recommended 2 NICs, one for LAN and
the
> > > other
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>connected
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>DSL modem. The internet connection on the server
> > works
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>flawlessly.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>I
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>used
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>the internet and router wizards to setup routing
> and
> > > NAT,
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>following
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>instruction in the MSKB to the "T". However, my
> > > Windows
> > > > XP
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>clients
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>can
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>not
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>access the internet using the server as a
gateway,
> > even
> > > > > > though
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>they
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>find
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>it
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>on the LAN just fine.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>I have racked my brain on this, trying every
> possible
> > > > > option
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>can
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>think
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>of,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>but so far nothing has resolved this. I am on my
> > third
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>uninstall/reinstall
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>of the required services and just about ready to
> > trash
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > whole
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>thing
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>out
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>of frustration. The clients accessed the
internet
> > just
> > > > > fine
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > when
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>I
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>used
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>hardware router; unfortunately it died and so I
> > figured
> > > > I'd
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > give
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>>NAT
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>shot
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>to see if it would do the trick as advertised.
ICS
> > > does
> > > > > not
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>appear
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>be an
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>option, since (contrary to what's stated in Help)
I
> > can
> > > > > find
> > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>way
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>enable it.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>Can anyone point me to a best practices guide
that
> > > would
> > > > be
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>beneficial?
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>So
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>far I haven't found much for SBS 2003, and even
> > > > Microsoft's
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > info
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>doesn't
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>cover the topic thoroughly enough.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>Something that may be relevant: running Repair on
> the
> > 2
> > > > NIC
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>connections
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>fails with an error that arp could not be
updated.
> > So
> > > > far
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>found
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>nothing to resolve that. Also, running Repair on
> the
> > > NIC
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>connecting
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>DSL modem returns an error about DHCP, saying the
> > > address
> > > > > was
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>invalid
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>(I'm
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>getting its address from the ISP as recommended).
> > IMO,
> > > > > local
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>DHCP
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>shouldn't
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>even care about that NIC, so I'm lost on that
one.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>Anyway, any and all advice appreciated! If I had
> the
> > > > funds
> > > > > > I'd
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>just
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>buy
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>new router but I need my shared 'net up before
the
> > > funds
> > > > > will
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>available...
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>Randall Arnold
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>--
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>http://www.sbslinks.com/really.htm
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>--
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>http://www.sbslinks.com/really.htm
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>--
> > > > > > > > >>>>http://www.sbslinks.com/really.htm
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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