Re: NtBackup hangs during scheduled backups

From: Dale (dayton_dale_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 06/11/04 

Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:52:03 -0400

As I said I am able to use the tape and drive no problem but the only way it
works is by using ntbackup manually. It will not run properly as a
scheduled task nor by selecting the scheduled task and telling it to "run".

Thanks for the earlier tips.

So what are your thought on what this other guy and myself are both
experiencing?
"Sean Daniel [MSFT]" <seanda@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ug11rv9TEHA.3404@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Hi Dale,
>
> The SBS Backup utility is designed with novice vaps in mind. We found
> through our studies that most people just weren't doing a backup
> (surprising, but true, these people are probably not the people you see in
> such newsgroups :) ). Because of this, the simplicity and lack of control
> in the wizard is by design. For experts, we still assume you can continue
> to use NTBackup. In fact, you can modify the
"%sbsprogramdir%\backup\small
> business backup script.bks" file using NTBackup and have SBS backup run
the
> script of your choice. Keep in mind it will run the same thing every day,
> thus your breaking system state into a weekly thing still won't be
possible
> using this concept. However, system state is typically quite small in
> comparison to other applications, so it shouldn't matter too much.
>
> Warning: Keep in mind that if you modify the small business backup
> script.bks file, you may be on your own for the restore, meaning our
> documentation might not work anymore.
>
> To answer your question about the VSS Service. This service only runs
when
> necessary. You'll probably notice a few services doing this now and more
in
> the future. This is primarily for your protection. If the service
doesn't
> need to be running, it stops itself to reduce the attack service on the
> server to prevent hackers from using the services in malicious ways
(should
> they get onto your server)
>
> For your actual failure regarding not mounting of the tapes, can you try
> going into RSM (my computer, right click, manage, removable storage) and
> moving your tapes into the FREE media pool. Perhaps the tapes are stuck
in
> some fashion.
>
> Please let us know how it goes.
> Sean
>
> --
> Sean Daniel
> Windows Small Business Server
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sbs
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
> "Dale Unroe" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C367CC88-ECD8-46DA-8B35-1112866E184F@microsoft.com...
> >I too have been having this strange problem. I have also noticed that
> >although Volume Shadow Service is an "Automatic" service and is set to
> >recover on failure by restarting it is always stopped when I check the
SBS
> >2003 Server Management Monitor. At first I tried using the built in
> >"Backup" utility but soon realized it was trying to both backup System
> >State and Exchange Data Stores with the Volume Shadow Service and VSS can
> >only do one or the other. The "Backup" utility doesn't allow for
exclusion
> >of System State (which I am happy to do weekly under a seperate routine)
so
> >I've turned to NTbackup for better control. It's unfortunate the
"Backup"
> >utility wasn't better designed as its integration with the server
reporting
> >sure is a useful feature.
> >
> > I've applied the KB831664 patch yesterday with no change. It's funny in
> > that if I go to Task Scheduler, select the Daily Backup routine, and
"run"
> > it with a right click the tape never mounts; however if I run the the
> > NTbackup wizard it will mount the tape and rewind reliably.
> >
> > Please if someone knows a solution help us out!
>
>

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