Re: Reconnecting Sharepoint Services after installing Sharepoint Portal 2003

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From: Marina Roos [SBS-MVP] (marina_at_roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com)
Date: 05/17/04 

Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 16:57:15 +0200

Hi Colin,

Great! I hope you will get that other DC on line. Thanks so far for
reporting back, and do let us know if it all works out for you. 

-- 
Regards,
Marina
Microsoft SBS-MVP
"Colin Strain" <Colin_Strain@CrowRoadConsulting.Ltd.UK> schreef in bericht
news:%23LP9%2359OEHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Hi Marina,
>
> I now have your full set of instructions.  I can't thank you enough for
this
> exceptional assistance.  Yes, I _do_ have another DC, and if you look back
a
> bit on the thread, you'll see that I did think that this could be the
> problem.  It's gone offline, but as it's 200 miles away, I won't be able
to
> get there before Wednesday.  I've had a look at the ids you listed below,
> and bascially they seem to recommend that if you can fix the (broken) DC
> then this is preferable.
>
> So, thanks to you, here's the plan:
>
> On Wednesday I will put the other DC online, and they should replicate
> (hopefully).  This in turn should resolve Ray's problem.  I will then put
> your plan into action and report (success, hopefully) back to you.
>
> Many, many thanks again.
>
> Colin.
> "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" <marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com> wrote in
message
> news:eTqebZ4OEHA.2088@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Hi Colin,
> >
> > No, we should solve that install problem first. Do you have any
additional
> > servers in your domain?
> > After some googling I found this (posting from Ray Fong):
> >
> > Quote
> > For this error, please use ntdsutil to verify the SBS holds all the FSMO
> > roles. If you have multiple DCs running on your domain, ensure all of
them
> > are up and running.
> >
> > "you must be a member of the domain admins, schema admins, and
enterprise
> > admins group".
> >
> >
> > 234790 HOW TO: Find Servers That Hold Flexible Single Master Operations
> > Roles
> > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=234790
> >
> > 255504 Using Ntdsutil.exe to Seize or Transfer FSMO Roles to a Domain
> > Controller
> > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=255504
> >
> > unquote
> >
> > -- 
> > Regards,
> >
> > Marina
> > Microsoft SBS-MVP
> >
> > "Colin Strain" <Colin_Strain@CrowRoadConsulting.Ltd.UK> schreef in
bericht
> > news:OthH5C4OEHA.1312@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > Thanks, I really appreciate the help.  The OWS seems to give rights to
> > > administer the root web-site http:\\myserver, but I've removed that
too
> > now.
> > > I have tried removing everything except those that you listed, and
> > > unfortunately it keeps saying "you must be a member of Domain Admins,
> > > Enterprise Admins and Schema Admins", which of course it is.  I
vaguely
> > > remember something somewhere about "not recognising Administrator
> because
> > > the SID is not the same as in the SQL database" but since I haven't
> > deleted
> > > either MSDE SharePoint (yet) nor Administrator, I don't think it can
be
> > > that, could it?
> > >
> > > Do you think I should consider removing MSDE Sharepoint and Sharepoint
> > > Services 'manually' via the CP, tidying up as you suggest, and then
> > > (hopefully) reinstalling?  Or do we need to find out why I can't run
> setup
> > > first?  No useful error messages in the event logs.
> > >
> > > BTW, from what I did see, the Central Sharepoint Administration thing
> > seemed
> > > just to invoke http://myserver:8081 and at the time got serviced by
the
> > > appropriate webVS.  When I installed the Portal, this got relocated to
> > > Portal Management on :9999, so I guess when it was uninstalled, the
> > > supporting stuff was removed.  I'm therefore hopeful that if only we
can
> > > remove Intranet(!), and then tidy-up as you suggest, then it will
> > reinstall
> > > all these things OK?
> > >
> > > Anyway, with your help, I'm sure we'll get there!
> > >
> > > Many thanks,
> > > Colin
> > > "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" <marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com> wrote in
> > message
> > > news:uq5Ivv1OEHA.3420@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > Hi Colin,
> > > >
> > > > Working on that post as we speak. What is this OWS-thing? For some
3rd
> > > party
> > > > program?
> > > > Can you try and see if you can run the setup now and meanwhile check
> if
> > > the
> > > > intranet is removed or not from that list?
> > > >
> > > > -- 
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Marina
> > > > Microsoft SBS-MVP
> > > >
> > > > "Colin Strain" <Colin_Strain@CrowRoadConsulting.Ltd.UK> schreef in
> > bericht
> > > > news:%23YzlQo1OEHA.3312@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > > OK Marina, I shall await your next post:
> > > > >
> > > > > For the record, in addition to those you listed, I also seem to
> have -
> > > > >
> > > > > domainname (mybusiness\distribution lists)
> > > > > IIS_WPG
> > > > > OWS_number_admin
> > > > > Remote_Web_Workplace_Users (mybusiness/security groups)
> > > > >
> > > > > Apart from the dist list and OWS, I have removed the other two
> > > > >
> > > > > Colin.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" <marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com> wrote
in
> > > > message
> > > > > news:OYw$6U1OEHA.3052@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > Hi Colin,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You should be able to run that setup. Let's check the properties
> of
> > > the
> > > > > > administrator and make sure that it is a member of (local
> > domain\users
> > > > > > unless otherwise mentioned):
> > > > > > Administrators (builtin)
> > > > > > Domain admins
> > > > > > Domain users
> > > > > > Enterprise admins
> > > > > > Group Policy Creater Owners
> > > > > > Internet Users (mybusiness/security groups
> > > > > > Mobile Users (mybusiness/security groups
> > > > > > Schema admins
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Only these groups should be in the memberlist.
> > > > > > Have to check out the central admin sharepoint thing first and
> then
> > > will
> > > > > dig
> > > > > > up the whole procedure for you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Marina
> > > > > > Microsoft SBS-MVP
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Colin Strain" <Colin_Strain@CrowRoadConsulting.Ltd.UK> schreef
in
> > > > bericht
> > > > > > news:%23yNQeG1OEHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > Thanks Marina,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm willing to give it a go.  I do have the current Companyweb
> > > > > preserved,
> > > > > > > but as it was pretty standard it wouldn't matter if it was
reset
> > to
> > > > > > scratch.
> > > > > > > Please do give me the steps.  Do you think that the inability
to
> > run
> > > > > > > SBSSetup is related to this?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > TIA,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Colin
> > > > > > > "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" <marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com>
> wrote
> > in
> > > > > > message
> > > > > > > news:el0nMx0OEHA.1392@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > Hi Colin,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also saw that you don't have the sharepoint central admin in
> IIS
> > > > > > anymore,
> > > > > > > > right? I think you will need to remove intranet with the
> > > integrated
> > > > > > setup
> > > > > > > > first, then remove the MS Windows Sharepoint Services,
delete
> > the
> > > > > > > > c:\inetpub\company, copy the program files\ms sql
> > > > > > server\mssql$sharepoint
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > a save place and delete the mssql$sharepoint folder, delete
> the
> > > > > > > > hklm\software\microsoft\smallbusinessserver\intranet-key in
> the
> > > > > > registry,
> > > > > > > > and rerun the intranet install from the sbs setup.
> > > > > > > > After that you can restore those 4 sharepoint files from the
> > > > > > > > \mssql$sharepoint\data (starting with sts) after stopping
iis,
> > > > > > sharepoint
> > > > > > > > timer and mssql$sharepoint-services. When those files are
> > > restored,
> > > > > > start
> > > > > > > > the services you just stopped and run steps 9 and 10 from
the
> > > 829113
> > > > > kb
> > > > > > > > article.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This is a very short outline of step to take, I can give you
> the
> > > > > > complete
> > > > > > > > details if you want to follow this. Will have to check out
> > however
> > > > > about
> > > > > > > > this central sharepoint web admin.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Marina
> > > > > > > > Microsoft SBS-MVP
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Colin Strain" <Colin_Strain@CrowRoadConsulting.Ltd.UK>
> schreef
> > in
> > > > > > bericht
> > > > > > > > news:OGnXjo0OEHA.680@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > Hi Marina,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yes, I still have both listed.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Colin
> > > > > > > > > "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]"
<marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com>
> > > wrote
> > > > in
> > > > > > > > message
> > > > > > > > > news:ucIF3H0OEHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Colin,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Can you check in add/remove programs if you still have
the
> > MS
> > > > SQL
> > > > > > > Server
> > > > > > > > > > Desktop Engine, and the MS Windows Sharepoint Services
2.0
> > > > listed?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Marina
> > > > > > > > > > Microsoft SBS-MVP
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "Colin Strain" <Colin_Strain@CrowRoadConsulting.Ltd.UK>
> > > schreef
> > > > in
> > > > > > > > bericht
> > > > > > > > > > news:u39lZB0OEHA.252@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > > > Susan,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Further to my arlier response:  I have now uninstalled
> > > > > Sharepoint
> > > > > > > > > Portal,
> > > > > > > > > > > and I do have an archive of the Companyweb that I can
> > > restore.
> > > > > > > > However,
> > > > > > > > > > > it's clear that removing the Portla has removed e.g.
> > Central
> > > > > > > > Sharepoint
> > > > > > > > > > > Administration.  Therefore, I think I need to
reinstall
> > > > Intranet
> > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > SBSSetup.  However, the problem I get is that it
> "pauses"
> > > for
> > > > > some
> > > > > > > > time
> > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > component 14 when checking the installed components,
and
> > > then
> > > > > > > suggests
> > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > Administrator is not a member of Domain, Enterprise,
and
> > > > Schema
> > > > > > > > Admins.
> > > > > > > > > > So,
> > > > > > > > > > > belt and braces, I put it into those groups and
> Sharepoint
> > > > Admin
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > good
> > > > > > > > > > > measure, & reloaded.  Still the same thing.  Could
this
> be
> > > > > becuase
> > > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > another DC offline and the updates haven't propagated
> yet?
> > > > Any
> > > > > > way
> > > > > > > > > round
> > > > > > > > > > > all of this just to get Companyweb reinstalled (I have
> the
> > > new
> > > > > > CD3)?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > TIA,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Colin
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz SBS Rocks [MVP] "
> > > > > > > <sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote
> > > > > > > > > > > in message
news:uDOrFUqOEHA.2336@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > > > > uh... we can't do Shareport Portal services [it's
not
> > > > > supported
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > same server as we are].  How good is your backup?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Colin Strain wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Can anybody tell me how to reconnect the
Sharepoint
> > > > services
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > companyweb
> > > > > > > > > > > > > after installing the new Sharepoint Portal 2003?
> When
> > I
> > > > > call
> > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > > > > Sharepoint
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Central Administration I get shown Set
Configuration
> > > > > Database
> > > > > > > > > Server.
> > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > set
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Database server to myserver\sharepoint and SQL
> Server
> > > > > Database
> > > > > > > > Name
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > STS_myserver_1 and connect to existing
configuration
> > > > > database.
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > receive
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the error 'unable to get global configuration
data'.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > b that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > TIA,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Colin Strain.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > PS:  If I try to rerun SBS 2003 component install
to
> > > > > reinstall
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > Intranet
> > > > > > > > > > > > > component, I get told I am not a member of either
> the
> > > > Domain
> > > > > > > > Admins,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Enterprise Admins, or Schema Admins, even though I
> am
> > > > logged
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > uder
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Administrator!
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