Re: Danger to having Port 80 open on hardware firewall

From: Les Connor [SBS MVP] (les.connor_at_DEL.cfive.ca)
Date: 03/22/04


Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 20:56:51 -0600

Seems to me that if you don't port forward 80, then you are not going to get
the ssl redirection <http <> https>.

;-).

--
Les Connor [SBS MVP]
-------------------------------------
SBS Rocks !
"Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]" <kweilbacMVP@gte.net> wrote in message
news:##5rOb7DEHA.3412@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> I was simply replying to the issue of getting http://fqdn/remote to
redirect
> to https://fqdn/remote - and that in my case, as well as the orignal
poster,
> it doesn't just happen "by design" (out of the box). And, Yes, I am
running
> ISA.
>
> --
> Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]
> "The days pass by so quickly now, the nights are seldom long"
>
>
> "Tony Su" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1130501c40f7d$41708bc0$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> > If you are particularly concerned about HTTP attacks over
> > port 80, consider upgrading to ISA.
> >
> > URL redirections and Port Address Translation isn't going
> > to do much to protect you against HTTP attacks and there
> > are very products out there which can do anything about it.
> >
> > ISA is one product which can, provided you configure
> > properly. Instead of simply forwarding the original
> > content and request, the original request is <terminated>
> > at ISA and never touches the webserver. Mal-formed
> > requests never go any further. Well-formed requests are
> > <re-created> and passed to the webserver on behalf of the
> > original User... but, as I've described even well-formed
> > requests are never passed directly to the webserver.
> >
> > I describe this further in my "Web Publishing Companyweb"
> > recommendation, click on the first link at
> >
> > www.su-networking.com/faq/
> >
> > Tony Su
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >Thanks to both of you.  I will look into both options in
> > the next day or so.
> > >
> > >John
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >"Javier Gomez [SBS MVP]"
> > <javier_gomez@remove.this.engineer.com> wrote in
> > >message news:ee5JeQ1DEHA.2652@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > >> If your ISP (or whomever is hosting your public DNS
> > records) supports URL
> > >> redirection... you could close port 80 and still keep
> > the convinience of
> > >> using http. I usually redirect
> > http://webmail.domain.com to
> > >> https://mail.domain.com/exchange and so on.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Javier [SBS MVP]
> > >>
> > >> << SBS ROCKS !!! >>
> > >>
> > >> "Steven Banks [SBS MVP]" <steve@newsonline.banksnw.com>
> > wrote in message
> > >> news:OdW2aXxDEHA.548@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > >> > John,
> > >> >
> > >> > By design, when you type in http://fqdn/remote it
> > should connect and
> > >> > immediately switch to https://fqdn/remote.  Is this
> > happening for you?
> > >If
> > >> > not, ensure port 443 is enabled as the SSL port for
> > the default Website
> > >> and
> > >> > that you have your server's cert showing under the
> > Directory Security
> > >> > Properties of Remote.  If it is still not switching
> > to SSL, then re-run
> > >> the
> > >> > CEICW.
> > >> >
> > >> > To answer your first question, If port 80 is really
> > bugging you, you can
> > >> > always take it out.  If your server is patched up to
> > date and running
> > >> > current AV software and is behind your firewall, your
> > exposure on port
> > >80
> > >> is
> > >> > a low risk in my opinion.  If you don't patch and
> > keep current AV
> > >software
> > >> > running, then you'll be hit over port 25 from email
> > based worm/virus
> > >> attacks
> > >> > long before port 80 becomes an issue most likely.
> > >> >
> > >> > Steve
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Banks Consulting Northwest
> > >> > http://www.banksnw.com
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > "John" <jk@rt.com> wrote in message
> > >> > news:OqCdyhwDEHA.2908@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > >> > I am running SBS2003 standard with a dual NIC
> > configuration and Linksys
> > >> > firewall.  I do NOT have the root setup to publish a
> > website.  I have
> > >> found
> > >> > that if I have port 80 forwarded to my WAN nic I am
> > able to access RWW
> > >by
> > >> > typing fqdn/remote  instead of https://fqdn/remote.
> > I have closed the
> > >> port
> > >> > for now but am curious if this is a bad idea just to
> > gain some
> > >> convenience.
> > >> >
> > >> > TIA
> > >> >
> > >> > John
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >.
> > >
>
>


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