Re: Danger to having Port 80 open on hardware firewall

From: Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP] (kweilbacMVP_at_gte.net)
Date: 03/22/04


Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 21:40:03 -0500

I was simply replying to the issue of getting http://fqdn/remote to redirect
to https://fqdn/remote - and that in my case, as well as the orignal poster,
it doesn't just happen "by design" (out of the box). And, Yes, I am running
ISA.

-- 
Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]
"The days pass by so quickly now, the nights are seldom long"
"Tony Su" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1130501c40f7d$41708bc0$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> If you are particularly concerned about HTTP attacks over
> port 80, consider upgrading to ISA.
>
> URL redirections and Port Address Translation isn't going
> to do much to protect you against HTTP attacks and there
> are very products out there which can do anything about it.
>
> ISA is one product which can, provided you configure
> properly. Instead of simply forwarding the original
> content and request, the original request is <terminated>
> at ISA and never touches the webserver. Mal-formed
> requests never go any further. Well-formed requests are
> <re-created> and passed to the webserver on behalf of the
> original User... but, as I've described even well-formed
> requests are never passed directly to the webserver.
>
> I describe this further in my "Web Publishing Companyweb"
> recommendation, click on the first link at
>
> www.su-networking.com/faq/
>
> Tony Su
>
>
>
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Thanks to both of you.  I will look into both options in
> the next day or so.
> >
> >John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Javier Gomez [SBS MVP]"
> <javier_gomez@remove.this.engineer.com> wrote in
> >message news:ee5JeQ1DEHA.2652@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> If your ISP (or whomever is hosting your public DNS
> records) supports URL
> >> redirection... you could close port 80 and still keep
> the convinience of
> >> using http. I usually redirect
> http://webmail.domain.com to
> >> https://mail.domain.com/exchange and so on.
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> Javier [SBS MVP]
> >>
> >> << SBS ROCKS !!! >>
> >>
> >> "Steven Banks [SBS MVP]" <steve@newsonline.banksnw.com>
> wrote in message
> >> news:OdW2aXxDEHA.548@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> > John,
> >> >
> >> > By design, when you type in http://fqdn/remote it
> should connect and
> >> > immediately switch to https://fqdn/remote.  Is this
> happening for you?
> >If
> >> > not, ensure port 443 is enabled as the SSL port for
> the default Website
> >> and
> >> > that you have your server's cert showing under the
> Directory Security
> >> > Properties of Remote.  If it is still not switching
> to SSL, then re-run
> >> the
> >> > CEICW.
> >> >
> >> > To answer your first question, If port 80 is really
> bugging you, you can
> >> > always take it out.  If your server is patched up to
> date and running
> >> > current AV software and is behind your firewall, your
> exposure on port
> >80
> >> is
> >> > a low risk in my opinion.  If you don't patch and
> keep current AV
> >software
> >> > running, then you'll be hit over port 25 from email
> based worm/virus
> >> attacks
> >> > long before port 80 becomes an issue most likely.
> >> >
> >> > Steve
> >> >
> >> > -- 
> >> > Banks Consulting Northwest
> >> > http://www.banksnw.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "John" <jk@rt.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:OqCdyhwDEHA.2908@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> > I am running SBS2003 standard with a dual NIC
> configuration and Linksys
> >> > firewall.  I do NOT have the root setup to publish a
> website.  I have
> >> found
> >> > that if I have port 80 forwarded to my WAN nic I am
> able to access RWW
> >by
> >> > typing fqdn/remote  instead of https://fqdn/remote.
> I have closed the
> >> port
> >> > for now but am curious if this is a bad idea just to
> gain some
> >> convenience.
> >> >
> >> > TIA
> >> >
> >> > John
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >.
> >


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