Re: Application Hang

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Ha ha. it's the easy way out, but I'm retiring next spring and I don't foresee anything like that happening between now and then.

"without DG ip address" I assume you mean to set the DNS to auto. If so, here it is:



Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Royal18

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet

royalnet



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : royalnet

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-2A-E4-27

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.227

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.126

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 11, 2008 4:34:37 PM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, July 17, 2008 4:34:37 PM



It's getting to be closing time here. I'll watch for any response at home, otherwise I'll pick this up on Monday. It you have anything for me to try, I'll come in on Sunday and run some options in peace and quiet.

Cheers,

Ron


"Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a37728cab1cd64bb3b20@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hello RR2,

Ok, but if you think about new software like exchange remember the problem with single label domain names. Back to DHCP, what about the client ipconfig without the DG ip address?

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Hello Meinolf,

When the old server crashed, it required a new motherboard and CPU.
NT-4 and it wouldn't co-exist, so it was done as a clean install by a
tech support guy as I felt it was over my head.

I don't see us ever growing past what we have now (about 30 clients).
We don't run anything on the server by way of application. I have our
intranet posted there and quite a few shared folders so different
people can
get access to the same things.
Cheers,

Ron

"Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
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Hello RR2,

When it was NT4, did you upgrade or create a total new server?
Unfortunal single label domain names should be avoided. Will not be a
problem in your small network i hope, but if you think to grow you
have to change it to royalnet.local or similar, do not use a real
ending like .com or .net domain internal. Exchange 2007 for example
will not run with single label domain names.

Again, please post the scope options from your DHCP server.

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Correct, only "royalnet" for a name. Our previous domain under NT-4
was a single word, so I changed it slightly so as not to confuse the
new from the old security hashes.

the exclusions have been entered for 128-132

"Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
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Hello RR2,

For the exclusion i was rong sorry, rightclick Address Pool and
choose New exclusion range. What is listed if you mark the scope
options? You should see at least,006 DNS servers, 003 Router.

Your domain name is only royalnet? Nothing with royalnet.local or
something else?

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The only things listed under scope are: address pool, address
leases,
reservations, and scope options. I don't see "exclusions"
anywhere.
DHCP server is authorized
Scope is activated.
Here are the listings you requested:
Server ***********
Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Quarterback
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce Networking
Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-92-B5-5C-0D
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling
Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . :
isatap.{B2942EF1-1935-4FC2-AD91-EA7480BC57A2}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
client *****************
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Royal18

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet

royalnet

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : royalnet

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100
Integrated Controller

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-2A-E4-27

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.227

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 11, 2008 2:46:56
PM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, July 17, 2008
2:46:56 PM

"Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
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Hello RR2,

Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from the client and the
server.
The
Exclusions in DHCP you have to add by hand, will NOT be filled
automatic,
how to i posted before.
Again, is the DHCP server authorized? In the DHCP console
rightclick
the
server and check AUTHORIZE option. Also did you activate the
scope?
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Hello Meinolf,

OK, here's where we stand.
I've extended the scope to five IPs (227-232)
No exclusion area listed even after refresh, so I skipped that
part.
209..... DNS listings removed from the server as well as the
client.
Forwarders were already set. Must have been picked up from the
router.
I did the ipconfig series (all, release, renew, all) on the
client. Even rebooted the client.
Still no internet.

NOTE: I did not kill the DHCP service on the router as the rest
of the company is still logged in.

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Hello RR2,

See inline

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Hi Meinolf,

I really appreciate the info you're coming back with. As you
may guess, my networking abilities are limited to hands-on
learning.

Please clarify the following points:

remove the dns 209............... Is this from the server
nic, the client, or both?

On all computers NIC'S in your domain.

"setup a forwarder" Please explain.

On the server open the DNS management console, go to Start, Run
and type "dnsmgmt.msc" without the quotes. In the console add
the server if not displayed. If you see the servername, mark
it, rightclick and choose properties. On the opened window
choose the FORWARDERS tab and here fill in the 209.x.x.x
addresses, doesn't matter which order. If the options are
greyed out, open the + and go to the Forward lookup zones, here
you can see a "." zone (root zone, only used from DNS root
servers), rightclick the "." and delete it. Then close the DNS
management console and open it again. Now you can add the
addresses to the FORWARDERS tab, it will not longer be greyed
out.

Where do I exclude the unused IPs?

Open the DHCP console, choose your created scope and open the
+. Here you can see Exclusions, scope options, leases.
Rightclick Exclusions and choose add exclusion range or
similar, on the popped up window you can either specify a range
or a single ip address.

I could probably stumble around
and find it, but it's easier to ask and prove I'm stupid as
opposed
to
locking everyone out and having them tell me.
"Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
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Hello RR2,

For the scope, use more then one ip, make a range of 5 and
when
the
ip is
leased from the client, exclude the other ones.
As said before remove the 209.253.113.10 and 209.253.113.18
from
the
DNS
configuration on the NIC's and setup a forwarder as
described.
Please post your scope options also.
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Here's the steup I tried. I limited this to one test client
when no one else was in the office so other logins were
avoided.

Server:
DHCP service running and authorized.
scope: 192.168.1.227 - 192.168.1.227 (so as to only issue
one
IP)
IPv6 unchecked
IPv4
IPs
192.168.1.2
255.255.255.0
192.168.1.1
DNS
192.168.1.2
209.253.113.10
209.253.113.18
Router (IP is 192.168.1.1)
DHCP disabled.
Client
Obtain IP address automatically
Use following DNS
192.168.1.2
209.253.113.10
209.253.113.18
On client I reseased and then refreshed ipconfig. The
correct
DNS
showed up
under ipconfig /all, but default gateway was blank. No
internet.
I also ran the same routine with the DNS on the client set
to
automatic.
I know I'm doing something wrong somewhere along the line.
"Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
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Hello RR2,

Did you authorize the DHCP server and activate the scope?
If the DHCP scope options are setup correctly with domain
internal DNS server and default gateway, the router ip from
the LAN run ipconfig /renew on a client or reboot it. It
should get the correc tsettings from the DHCP server.
Additional you have to configure the DNS server from the
DC, which normally will be installed during promotion of
the first DC, with a forwarder ip address. This ip is the
DNS server from your ISP and has to be set on the server
properties in the DNS management console under the
forwarders tab. On all machines in the domain you have to
use only the LAN internal DNS server no external/public ip
address.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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That would be my desire, but I'm haveing problems there
too. I tried changing to the server for DHCP service, but
couldn't get to the internet. For some reason, the DHCP
server on the domain server isn't passing the default
gateway to the clients. Since our previous server (before
the crash) was setup with the router serving DHCP, I left
it that way from the beginning. The old server was an
NT-4 server and all worked well.

"Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
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Hello RR2,

I would not use the DHCP form the router, do it the other
way
around
and
disable it, install the server as DHCP server and also
use
DNS
on
the
Server not from the router, if so configured.
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We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now
experiencing some problems with application hangups.

The server is a domain server with a few shared files
and folders. No applications are installed on the
server.

Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files
from a client PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer
on the client PC shows Application Hang. There are no
events showing on the server for the time of the
"incident". All shares on the server lock at that time
and the only way out is to reboot the server.

Additional information that may or may not be related.
Our router is acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN.
The DHCP server on the domain server is disabled through
services and unauthorized.

Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?




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