Re: Application Hang

Hello RR2,

When it was NT4, did you upgrade or create a total new server? Unfortunal single label domain names should be avoided. Will not be a problem in your small network i hope, but if you think to grow you have to change it to royalnet.local or similar, do not use a real ending like .com or .net domain internal. Exchange 2007 for example will not run with single label domain names.

Again, please post the scope options from your DHCP server.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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Correct, only "royalnet" for a name. Our previous domain under NT-4
was a single word, so I changed it slightly so as not to confuse the
new from the old security hashes.

the exclusions have been entered for 128-132

"Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
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Hello RR2,

For the exclusion i was rong sorry, rightclick Address Pool and
choose New exclusion range. What is listed if you mark the scope
options? You should see at least,006 DNS servers, 003 Router.

Your domain name is only royalnet? Nothing with royalnet.local or
something else?

Best regards

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The only things listed under scope are: address pool, address
leases,
reservations, and scope options. I don't see "exclusions" anywhere.
DHCP server is authorized
Scope is activated.
Here are the listings you requested:
Server ***********

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Quarterback
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce Networking
Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-92-B5-5C-0D
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling
Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . :
isatap.{B2942EF1-1935-4FC2-AD91-EA7480BC57A2}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
client *****************
Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Royal18

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : royalnet

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : royalnet

royalnet

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : royalnet

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated
Controller

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-2A-E4-27

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.227

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 11, 2008 2:46:56 PM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, July 17, 2008 2:46:56
PM

"Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
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Hello RR2,

Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from the client and the
server.
The
Exclusions in DHCP you have to add by hand, will NOT be filled
automatic,
how to i posted before.
Again, is the DHCP server authorized? In the DHCP console
rightclick
the
server and check AUTHORIZE option. Also did you activate the scope?
Best regards
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Hello Meinolf,

OK, here's where we stand.
I've extended the scope to five IPs (227-232)
No exclusion area listed even after refresh, so I skipped that
part.
209..... DNS listings removed from the server as well as the
client.
Forwarders were already set. Must have been picked up from the
router.
I did the ipconfig series (all, release, renew, all) on the
client. Even rebooted the client.

Still no internet.

NOTE: I did not kill the DHCP service on the router as the rest
of the company is still logged in.

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Hello RR2,

See inline

Best regards

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Hi Meinolf,

I really appreciate the info you're coming back with. As you
may guess, my networking abilities are limited to hands-on
learning.

Please clarify the following points:

remove the dns 209............... Is this from the server nic,
the client, or both?

On all computers NIC'S in your domain.

"setup a forwarder" Please explain.

On the server open the DNS management console, go to Start, Run
and type "dnsmgmt.msc" without the quotes. In the console add the
server if not displayed. If you see the servername, mark it,
rightclick and choose properties. On the opened window choose the
FORWARDERS tab and here fill in the 209.x.x.x addresses, doesn't
matter which order. If the options are greyed out, open the + and
go to the Forward lookup zones, here you can see a "." zone (root
zone, only used from DNS root servers), rightclick the "." and
delete it. Then close the DNS management console and open it
again. Now you can add the addresses to the FORWARDERS tab, it
will not longer be greyed out.

Where do I exclude the unused IPs?

Open the DHCP console, choose your created scope and open the +.
Here you can see Exclusions, scope options, leases. Rightclick
Exclusions and choose add exclusion range or similar, on the
popped up window you can either specify a range or a single ip
address.

I could probably stumble around
and find it, but it's easier to ask and prove I'm stupid as
opposed
to
locking everyone out and having them tell me.
"Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
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Hello RR2,

For the scope, use more then one ip, make a range of 5 and when
the
ip is
leased from the client, exclude the other ones.
As said before remove the 209.253.113.10 and 209.253.113.18
from
the
DNS
configuration on the NIC's and setup a forwarder as described.
Please post your scope options also.
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Here's the steup I tried. I limited this to one test client
when no one else was in the office so other logins were
avoided.

Server:
DHCP service running and authorized.
scope: 192.168.1.227 - 192.168.1.227 (so as to only issue
one
IP)
IPv6 unchecked
IPv4
IPs
192.168.1.2
255.255.255.0
192.168.1.1
DNS
192.168.1.2
209.253.113.10
209.253.113.18
Router (IP is 192.168.1.1)
DHCP disabled.
Client
Obtain IP address automatically
Use following DNS
192.168.1.2
209.253.113.10
209.253.113.18
On client I reseased and then refreshed ipconfig. The correct
DNS
showed up
under ipconfig /all, but default gateway was blank. No
internet.
I also ran the same routine with the DNS on the client set to
automatic.
I know I'm doing something wrong somewhere along the line.
"Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
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Hello RR2,

Did you authorize the DHCP server and activate the scope? If
the DHCP scope options are setup correctly with domain
internal DNS server and default gateway, the router ip from
the LAN run ipconfig /renew on a client or reboot it. It
should get the correc tsettings from the DHCP server.
Additional you have to configure the DNS server from the DC,
which normally will be installed during promotion of the
first DC, with a forwarder ip address. This ip is the DNS
server from your ISP and has to be set on the server
properties in the DNS management console under the forwarders
tab. On all machines in the domain you have to use only the
LAN internal DNS server no external/public ip address.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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That would be my desire, but I'm haveing problems there too.
I tried changing to the server for DHCP service, but
couldn't get to the internet. For some reason, the DHCP
server on the domain server isn't passing the default
gateway to the clients. Since our previous server (before
the crash) was setup with the router serving DHCP, I left it
that way from the beginning. The old server was an NT-4
server and all worked well.

"Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
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Hello RR2,

I would not use the DHCP form the router, do it the other
way
around
and
disable it, install the server as DHCP server and also use
DNS
on
the
Server not from the router, if so configured.
Best regards
Meinolf Weber
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We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now
experiencing some problems with application hangups.

The server is a domain server with a few shared files and
folders. No applications are installed on the server.

Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files
from a client PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer on
the client PC shows Application Hang. There are no events
showing on the server for the time of the "incident". All
shares on the server lock at that time and the only way
out is to reboot the server.

Additional information that may or may not be related.
Our router is acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN.
The DHCP server on the domain server is disabled through
services and unauthorized.

Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?



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