RE: Can't see other computers/nodes on network!
- From: "James Price" <JamesPrice@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 17:37:17 -0700
Ok, the first thing I see is that the server isn't using the same DNS server
as the workstation, Server is using 127.0.0.1 and the workstation is using
192.168.0.10. Now I'm guessing that the reason you can still browse the
Internet on the server is that during the domain setup it setup DNS on the
server itself and it's probably configured to forward to either 192.168.0.10
or something on the Internet.
Is the workstation a member of the same domain as the server (knight-tech2)?
Do you have 2 NICs in the server by any chance, if not then no big deal?
You can also probable ping and get some degree of name resolution b/c you're
on a flat LAN meaning that everything on the 192.168.0.0/24 network can
broadcast for NetBIOS and they will get a response b/c there isn't anything
to stop them. Not a bad thing but not ideal either.
In general terms the way this should work is that your server(s) provide
pretty much all your network services except (switching, routing (unless your
using ISA or RRAS)), so you want to configure DNS, DHCP (and WINS if you
really need it, if you are AD and W2K or higher you shouldn't need WINS). So
a client gets DHCP from the server and the DHCP info should include:
1) Default GW
2) DNS Server
Now I like to include a few extras like domain name, primary DNS suffix and
NTP; these are not required but often handy to have around. Additionally, I
configure DHCP to register ALL clients with DNS regardless of whether or not
they request it. This keeps my DNS Zones up to date and makes sure MMC for
remote management work as expected. In order for this to work you also need
to make sure you create a reverse lookup zone for your LAN, again not
required but a good practice.
So a client comes on the network it broadcasts for a DHCP server and your
server answers, your clients all get consistent info from your windows server
and that is the beginning of the conversation.
After that you should be able to browse the Network Neighborhood or type a
UNC path on a client and see the resource on the server.
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If you are running any client side firewalls i.e. XPSP2 and Server SP1 you
may need to make sure you are allowing File and Print Sharing. A lot of
folks don't like the new MS client side FW, I do, you've got to do a little
more work to get them configured correctly but if we'd been using them 3
years ago we'd have saved a lot of time and more money than I can count from
cleaning up from NIMBDA, Code Red, etc.
That should get you working; if not we'll take a look at some other things.
Unless you created any shares on the server you should see 3 by default:
1) Netlogon
2) Sysvol
3) Scheduled Tasks
Try creating a shared printer or share a directory and see if you can see
that by browsing \\servername\
--
James E. Price III
Fairway Consulting Group, Inc.
O: 954-727-5126
C: 305-970-4902
E: jprice@xxxxxxxxxx
W: www.fcgroup.us
"Knight Technologies" wrote:
> Let's take this from the top so we know what we're working with. Are you
> working in a Windows Domain (did one exits and you joined it or did your
> create one when you set up this server)?
> I created a domain controller when I setup the server.
>
> In system properties full computer name says: knight-tech.knight-tech2
>
> Domain says: KNIGHT-TECH2
>
> Run an IPCONFIG /all on your server and on a workstation your having
> problems with and let's see what the basic network settings are?
>
> MAIN SERVER:
>
> Windows IP Configuration
>
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : knight-tech
> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : KNIGHT-TECH2
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : KNIGHT-TECH2
> Unknown
>
> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Unknown
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce MCP Networking Controller
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.100
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.10
> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.10
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 127.0.0.1
> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, August 13, 2005 8:18:45 PM
> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, August 20, 2005 8:18:45 PM
>
> CLIENT:
> Windows IP Configuration
>
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : knight-tech9
> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : Unknown
>
> Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 3:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Unknown
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG
> Network
> Connection
> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.103
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.10
> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.10
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.10
> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, August 14, 2005 6:30:44 PM
> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, August 21, 2005 6:30:44 PM
>
>
> Which server in your network is your DNS server, is it the same one listed
> in the IPCONFIG /ALL?
> The MAIN SERVER.
>
> Modem: 192.168.0.1
> Router: 192.168.0.10
>
> Router handles DNS Resolving.
>
> Do you have a valid IP address, if you have something like 169.n.n.n, then
> you aren't getting a valid IP address and we can start there.
> All addresses seem valid, I'm running internet services, eg website, with no
> problems, all machines can connect to services on main server and/or hosted
> on clients.
>
> On the workstation can you ping the server by hostname and by IP address?
> Yes
>
> On the server can you ping the workstation by hostname and by IP address?
> Yes
>
> Can you browse the Internet from both the server and the workstation?
> Something like www.microsoft.com or www.google.com?
> Yes
>
>
> --
> Knight Technologies (http://knight-technologies.us)
> E4 Chat (http://e4chat.com)
>
>
> "James Price" wrote:
>
> > Let's take this from the top so we know what we're working with. Are you
> > working in a Windows Domain (did one exits and you joined it or did your
> > create one when you set up this server)?
> >
> > Run an IPCONFIG /all on your server and on a workstation your having
> > problems with and let's see what the basic network settings are?
> >
> > If you open a command prompt Start->Run-> type "cmd" and press <OK> then you
> > can run commands in that window.
> >
> > Which server in your network is your DNS server, is it the same one listed
> > in the IPCONFIG /ALL?
> >
> > Do you have a valid IP address, if you have something like 169.n.n.n, then
> > you aren't getting a valid IP address and we can start there.
> >
> > On the workstation can you ping the server by hostname and by IP address?
> >
> > On the server can you ping the workstation by hostname and by IP address?
> >
> > Can you browse the Internet from both the server and the workstation?
> > Something like www.microsoft.com or www.google.com?
> >
> >
> > --
> > James E. Price III
> > Fairway Consulting Group, Inc.
> > O: 954-727-5126
> > C: 305-970-4902
> > E: jprice@xxxxxxxxxx
> > W: www.fcgroup.us
> >
> >
> > "Knight Technologies" wrote:
> >
> > > I can't see or find other computers on the network at all and I have File and
> > > Printer Sharing turned on?
> > >
> > > Also, I'm running Windows Server 2003 and don't see how to create a group
> > > network like with other Windows OS's, there is no "Create Home or Office
> > > Network" option, etc. I'm assuming that as this is Windows Server the
> > > computer name would be the workgroup correct?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Knight Technologies (http://knight-technologies.us)
> > > E4 Chat (http://e4chat.com)
.
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