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Dear guys,

please accept my deep apologies for closing the original posting by mistake.
Many thanks for your comments/suggestions.
Please find here my findings so far:

*** Summary at this point ***
Please let me start with a summary at this point.
I guess the problem seen with DHCP from PC's is a symptom of another
problem(s), which can be boiled down to:
tina is the PDC and robert a DC.
Note that both robert and tina are blade servers within the save blade
center.
robert can not ping tina (as it could yesterday).
tina can not ping robert.
robert has problems because it can not see the PDC.
NETLOGON from robert fails because it can not find a PDC for the domain.

1. "ipconfig -all" from the servers should clear out the misunderstanding I
have caused that any of our server should obtain an IP from DHCP (we use
static IP's of our servers, from a

dedicated range 192.168.65.2-192.168.65.139):

1.1. ipconfig -all from "erik":
Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : erik
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : ourdomain.local
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : ourdomain.local

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : IBM Netfinity Fault Tolerance PCI
Adapter

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-06-29-57-2C-33
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.65.80
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.65.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.65.3
192.168.65.4
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.65.3
Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 192.168.65.4
192.168.65.76

1.2. ipconfig -all from "maria":
Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : maria
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : ourdomain.local
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : ourdomain.local

Ethernet adapter Intel Pro 1000 XT Gigabit Ethernet Adapter - onboard 1:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 XT Network
Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-06-5B-EC-6C-66
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.65.76
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.65.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.65.76
192.168.65.3
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.65.76

1.3. ipconfig -all from "oscar":
Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : oscar
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : ourdomain.local
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : ourdomain.local

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : AMD PCNET Family PCI Ethernet Adapter
#2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-29-09-0F-E4
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.65.25
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.65.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.65.3
192.168.65.4
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.65.4
Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 192.168.65.3
192.168.65.76

1.4. ipconfig -all from "robert":
Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : robert
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : ourdomain.local
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : ourdomain.local

Ethernet adapter Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet Adapter - Onboard -
Link A:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-AD-95-12
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.65.3
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.65.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.65.3
192.168.65.4
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.65.3

1.5. ipconfig -all from "tina":
Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : tina
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : ourdomain.local
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : ourdomain.local

Ethernet adapter Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet Adapter - Onboard -
Link A:


Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet
#2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-AD-92-75
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.65.4
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.65.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.65.4
192.168.65.3
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.65.4

1.6. ipconfig -all "from a impacted PC":
Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : pc054
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : ourdomain.local
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network
Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-4F-B2-1D
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.5.70
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

1.7. ipconfig -all "healthy PC":
Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : pc008
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : ourdomain.local
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : ourdomain.local
ourdomain.local

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : ourdomain.local
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit
Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-1F-D8-E2-57
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.65.189
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.65.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.65.3
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.65.4
192.168.65.3
192.168.65.76
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.65.3
Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 192.168.65.4
192.168.65.76
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 02 June 2005 09:50:10
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 04 June 2005 09:50:10

"Healthy PC" get's both WINS, have correct domain suffix and the
DhcpNodeType is a h-Node.
You will also note that the lease renewal (obtained) works fine.

2. Summary of ipconfig
All DC's are confirmed to have static IPs.
I.e. DNS servers has their own IP as the first DNS server and another as
secondary, except for "oscar".
In regards of WINS, all have itself as the primary (except "erik" and
"oscar").
I have shut down "oscar" to exclude this from being potential cause of the
problem.
Sorry for misinforming - "oscar" is running in-house (hence no router/bridge
in between).
Erik is not a WINS Server itself.

3. I restarted the NETLOGON service on robert and got the following error
entry in the SytemLog:
Find the following in the SystemLog:
Event Type: Warning
Event Source: NETLOGON
Event Category: None
Event ID: 3096
Date: 02/06/2005
Time: 16:03:33
User: N/A
Computer: ROBERT
Description:
The primary Domain Controller for this domain could not be located.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

4. WINS replication.
I try replicate now on "maria" (towards "tina" and "robert"), and find the
following error entry in the SystemLog:
Event Type: Error
Event Source: Wins
Event Category: None
Event ID: 4243
Date: 02/06/2005
Time: 17:39:32
User: N/A
Computer: MARIA
Description:
WINS Pull thread encountered an error during the process of sending a push
notification to another WINS. The error code is given in the data section.

For more information, see

Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: f3 09 00 00 08 00 00 e0 ó......à

I try replicate now on "tina" (towards "maria" and "robert"), and find the
following error entry in the SystemLog:
Event Type: Error
Event Source: Wins
Event Category: None
Event ID: 4243
Date: 02/06/2005
Time: 17:41:49
User: N/A
Computer: TINA
Description:
WINS Pull thread encountered an error during the process of sending a push
notification to another WINS. The error code is given in the data section.

For more information, see

Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: f2 09 00 00 08 00 00 e0 ò......à

I try replicate now on "robert" (towards "maria" and "tina"), and find the
following error entry in the SystemLog:
Event Type: Error
Event Source: Wins
Event Category: None
Event ID: 4243
Date: 02/06/2005
Time: 17:41:14
User: N/A
Computer: ROBERT
Description:
WINS Pull thread encountered an error during the process of sending a push
notification to another WINS. The error code is given in the data section.

For more information, see

Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: f2 09 00 00 08 00 00 e0 ò......à

5. "ipconfig -flushdns" on a PC with a 169.254.x.x followed by
"ipconfig -renew" (or even a "ipconfig -release") does not result in the PC
getting a 192.168.65.x address from one of our

DHCP servers.
The PC still has a 169.254.x.x IP.

*** I WILL NOW (next steps) ***
N.1. Obtain and run dhcploc.exe to see how many (and which..) DHCP servers
are running in my network.

N.2. Stop the DHCP servers on all other servers but robert.

N.3. I'd like (at least while the problem persist) to change the lease time
to more than 48 hours to limit the potential number of PC's which may end up
"faulty" in case they are not

running and henceforth not able to renew the IP lease. Do you think this is
a good idea (we're not running out of available IP's as I can see it)?

N.4. Prepare for assigning static IPs to the PCs which has the fault (as a
temporary work-around) using available IPs from our "big" server range in
case we run into more problems.

Kind regards,
Soren

"iliketo.sh@xxxxxxxxx" <iliketoshgmailcom@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
in message news:CE74CBED-0F0D-4EC1-A6A6-3CF6BE2D5E8D@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Lol, you've got one big headache there...i would suggest removing DHCP and
> DNS from all but 'robert'. You could then test this out and it would be
> far
> easier to investigate if you come across problems, once it's working, add
> a
> server at a time to DNS/DHCP or whatever is needed. Also from your
> description your running WINS but all XP machines, i would advise removing
> it
> unless your specifically need it.
>
> *quote*. Restart of a PC and it get's (unknown how/from where) IP
> 169.254.5.70
> (or any other within the subnet range 169.254.x.x.) , netmask 255.255.0.0
> and no default gateway.*quote*
>
> It is getting that 169.254.*.* address as this is the APIPA (private
> addressing) range when a PC can't contact a DHCP server.
>
> Hope this somewhat helps...
>
>
>
> "Soren Mikkelsen" wrote:
>
>> Dear reader,
>>
>> not sure this is the right forum for my question, so I in total have
>> posted
>> it in the forums:
>> microsoft.public.win2000.dns
>> microsoft.public.win2000.networking
>> microsoft.public.windows.server.dns
>> microsoft.public.windows.server.networking
>> http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/Windows_Server_2003/Q_21444473.html
>>
>> Any solution or directions to what to do much appreciated.
>>
>> The environment:
>> In our (single) domain we have +50 XP PCs and 4 Windows Server 2003 DCs
>> (3
>> in-house being "maria", "tina" and "robert" and 1 being "oscar" in remote
>> location).
>> One DC (robert) run the DHCP Server service (and DHCP Client service for
>> registering and updateing IP addresses and DNS records for this
>> computer).
>> All 4 DCs run DNS (two zones).
>>
>> The following server roles/functions apply:
>> erik: dhcp (running but not defined nor used by any PC). 192.168.65.80
>> maria: dns, secondary wins. 192.168.65.76
>> oscar: dns (though no PC currently point to this). 192.168.65.25
>> robert: dhcp, dns, primary wins. 192.168.65.3
>> tina: dhcp (running but not defined nor used by any PC), dns, secondary
>> wins. 192.168.65.4
>>
>> No changes implemented(! as certain as I can be) in regards of any of
>> these
>> servers within the last week.
>>
>> a. The problem:
>> a.1. XP PCs runs fine and can renew (re-obtain) IP leases from our DHCP
>> server. However a PC which has not got an IP fails to get such from the
>> DHCP
>> server. The PC is for sure "on the network" (e.g. manually assigning an
>> IP
>> and it runs "fine").
>> a.2. "ipconfig -renew" show a new Lease was obtained (updated time also
>> for
>> when the lease expires).
>> a.3. "ipconfig -release" followed by "ipconfig -renew" result in the
>> error
>> message "An error occurred while renewing interface Local Area Connection
>> :
>> unable to cotact your DHCP server. Request has timed out.".
>> a.4. Restart of a PC and it get's (unknown how/from where) IP
>> 169.254.5.70
>> (or any other within the subnet range 169.254.x.x.) , netmask 255.255.0.0
>> and no default gateway.
>> a.5. Same as a.4. when an IP has expired (e.g. a PC was powered off last
>> night and this morning had the problem).
>>
>> b. Other problems/symptoms:
>>
>> c. On robert Windows Server 2003 (Version 5.2 (Build
>> 3790.srv03_rtm.030324-2048)" - role DC, dhcp, dns, primary wins:
>> c.1. In dhcp managment console see erik as running (no DHCP is defined on
>> this though), "Cannot find the DHCP Server" on tina nor oscar. robert
>> self
>> has DHCP defined and I can see all of this.
>> c.2. In dns management console see oscar and maria fine, but get error
>> "Unable to connect to the computer "tina". The error was: The network
>> path
>> was not found." and "Cannot Contact the DNS Server" from tina.
>> c.3. DHCP Server plus Client and DNS Server plus Client services running.
>> c.4. Ping erik, maria and oscar but not tina ("Request timed out").
>> c.5 Map a network drive to erik, maria and oscar but not tina (get error:
>> "The drive could not be mapped because no network was found")
>> c.6 +50 available IP's in DHCP scope.
>>
>> Restarting robert result in the following error entry in the SystemLog:
>> Event Type: Error
>> Event Source: NetBT
>> Event Category: None
>> Event ID: 4321
>> Date: 02/06/2005
>> Time: 12:03:58
>> User: N/A
>> Computer: ROBERT
>> Description:
>> The name "OURDOMAIN :1d" could not be registered on the Interface
>> with
>> IP address 192.168.65.3. The machine with the IP address 192.168.65.76
>> did
>> not allow the name to be claimed by this machine.
>>
>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>> Data:
>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 04 00 56 00 ......V.
>> 0008: 00 00 00 00 e1 10 00 c0 ....á..À
>> 0010: 01 01 00 00 01 00 00 c0 .......À
>> 0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
>>
>> Followed by:
>> Event Type: Error
>> Event Source: W32Time
>> Event Category: None
>> Event ID: 29
>> Date: 02/06/2005
>> Time: 12:06:42
>> User: N/A
>> Computer: ROBERT
>> Description:
>> The time provider NtpClient is configured to acquire time from one or
>> more
>> time sources, however none of the sources are currently accessible. No
>> attempt to contact a source will be made for 15 minutes. NtpClient has no
>> source of accurate time.
>>
>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>>
>>
>> And later:
>> Event Type: Error
>> Event Source: DhcpServer
>> Event Category: None
>> Event ID: 1059
>> Date: 02/06/2005
>> Time: 12:07:26
>> User: N/A
>> Computer: ROBERT
>> Description:
>> The DHCP service failed to see a directory server for authorization.
>>
>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>> Data:
>> 0000: 3a 20 00 00 : ..
>>
>> However, this is followed immeditately by the entry:
>> Event Type: Information
>> Event Source: DhcpServer
>> Event Category: None
>> Event ID: 1044
>> Date: 02/06/2005
>> Time: 12:07:26
>> User: N/A
>> Computer: ROBERT
>> Description:
>> The DHCP/BINL service on the local machine, belonging to the Windows
>> Administrative domain ourdomain.local, has determined that it is
>> authorized
>> to start. It is servicing clients now.
>>
>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>> Data:
>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 ....
>>
>> Some minutes later another error entry is seen:
>> Event Type: Error
>> Event Source: NETLOGON
>> Event Category: None
>> Event ID: 5719
>> Date: 02/06/2005
>> Time: 12:18:54
>> User: N/A
>> Computer: ROBERT
>> Description:
>> This computer was not able to set up a secure session with a domain
>> controller in domain OURDOMAIN due to the following:
>> There are currently no logon servers available to service the logon
>> request.
>> This may lead to authentication problems. Make sure that this computer is
>> connected to the network. If the problem persists, please contact your
>> domain administrator.
>>
>> ADDITIONAL INFO
>> If this computer is a domain controller for the specified domain, it sets
>> up
>> the secure session to the primary domain controller emulator in the
>> specified domain. Otherwise, this computer sets up the secure session to
>> any
>> domain controller in the specified domain.
>>
>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>> Data:
>> 0000: 5e 00 00 c0 ^..À
>>
>> d. On tina Windows Server 2003 (Version 5.2 (Build
>> 3790.srv03_rtm.030324-2048)" - role PDC, dns, secondary wins:
>> d.1. In dhcp managment console see erik as running (no DHCP is defined on
>> this though), "Cannot find the DHCP Server" on robert nor oscar. tina
>> self
>> have no DHCP defined.
>> d.2. In dns management console see oscar and maria fine, but get error
>> "Unable to connect to the computer "robert". The error was: The network
>> path
>> was not found." and "Cannot Contact the DNS Server" from robert.
>> d.3. DHCP Server plus Client and DNS Server plus Client services running.
>> d.4. Ping erik, maria and oscar, but not robert ("Request timed out").
>> d.5 Map a network drive to erik, maria and oscar but not robert (get
>> error:
>> "The drive could not be mapped because no network was found")
>>
>> e. On erik Windows Server 2003 (Version 5.2 (Build
>> 3790.srv03_rtm.030324-2048)" - role member server:
>> e.1. In dhcp managment console see erik and tina as running (no DHCP is
>> defined on these though), "Cannot find the DHCP Server" on oscar, and
>> robert
>> can be seen having DHCP defined and I can see all of this.
>> e.2. In dns management console see all: oscar, maria, robert and tina. No
>> dns defined for erik self.
>> e.3. DHCP Server plus Client and DNS Server plus Client services running.
>> e.4. Ping all: maria, oscar, robert and tina.
>> e.5 Map a network drive to all: maria, oscar, robert and tina
>>
>> f. On maria Windows Server 2003 (Version 5.2 (Build
>> 3790.srv03_gdr.040410-1234)" - role DC, dns, secondary wins:
>> f.1. dhcp managment not installed.
>> f.2. In dns management console see all: erik, maria (self) oscar, robert
>> and
>> tina. No dns defined for erik.
>> f.3. DHCP Client and DNS Server plus Client services running.
>> f.4. Ping all: maria, oscar, robert and tina.
>> f.5 Map a network drive to all: erik, oscar, robert and tina.
>>
>> g. On oscar Windows Server 2003 (Version 5.2 (Build
>> 3790.srv03_gdr.040410-1234)" - role DC:
>> g.1. dhcp managment not installed.
>> g.2. In dns management console see all: erik, maria, oscar, robert and
>> tina.
>> No dns defined for erik.
>> g.3. DHCP Client and DNS Server plus Client services running.
>> g.4. Ping all: maria, oscar, robert and tina.
>> g.5 Map a network drive to all: erik, maria, robert and tina.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Soren Mikkelsen
>> Switzerland
>>
>>
>>


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