Re: troubles with outgoing tcp/ip after sp1



i'm sorry to inform you changing the MTU didn't help at all. the problem
seems to be accumulating over time.
the longer the server runs, the more paket loss, the more vpn disconnects,
the worse smtp mailing gets ;-(

- thomas


"Thomas" <me@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eyBJfc$WFHA.2684@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> cheers robert
>
> this fixed my problems partially. indeed the max. MTU size my router(s)
> can use is 1372. setting the MTU value for PPP and VPN cured the
> packetloss.
>
> unfortunately, this didn't cure the ftp / mail / news upload problems:
>
> [23:17:24] PORT 192,168,2,141,8,171
> [23:17:24] 200 Port command successful.
> [23:17:24] Opening data connection IP: 192.168.2.141 PORT: 2219.
> [23:17:24] STOR id.jpg
> [23:17:24] 150 Opening data connection for id.jpg.
> [23:17:24] 2368 bytes sent successfully. (2.31 KB/s) (00:00:01).
> [23:17:54] No response received from server. Timeout (30s).
> [23:17:54] Connection closed.
>
> while the ftp tool (here: smartftp, but same behaviour in comand line ftp)
> thinks the 2368 bytes were sent successfully, the target server never got
> any bits and bytes (id.jpg got size of 0 bytes on server). the 2368bytes
> thus are put into the tcpip buffer where it *should* be sent by winsocks.
> the application itself isn't even notified of any sending errors. only 30s
> (after timeout waiting for server response) its socket is closed.
>
> the interesting part: once the upload failed, a 2nd upload after the
> connection timeout is most the time successfull. i got no clue, but i
> would describe the problem as something like "delayed outbound socket
> creation" :-)
>
> this behaviour somewhat describe the same problems as discussed here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/newsgroups/dgbrowser/en-us/default.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.windowsupdate&tid=9b5c56c5-472e-4a60-a310-38ec9c9fca34&cat=en-us-technet-mgmt&lang=en&cr=US&sloc=en-us&m=1&p=1
> unfortunately, KB893066 cannot be uninstalled in a slipstreamed w2k3
> sp1... and of course uninstalling an important hotfix is the least you
> want to do anyway. but still better than not being able to use your
> windows installation for your work...
>
> - thomas
>
>
> "Robert L [MS-MVP]" <noreply@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:ucL5bn6WFHA.1404@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> It could be the MTU issue. quoted from
> http://www.howtonetworking.com/casestudy.htm
> Case Study - VPN Connection issues after installed Windows server 2003 SP1
> Situation: The client has been experiencing some VPN connection issues
> after they installed Windows Server 2003 SP1. The main office has T1 line.
> The branch office uses DSL line and some home users who are using DSL too.
> They can establish the VPN, but they experience these issues:
> The connection may drop in 2 or 3 minutes.
> The VPN client may receive "The Network name is no longer available"
> message when they transfer the data.
> The RDC to TS may have black screen.
> Resolution: Set my VPN client MTU to 1400.
> To modify MTU, please refer to this page, How to change MTU settings for
> PPP or VPN.
> Related Topics
> Connectivity issues after ms05-019 and 2003 sp1
> Can't access some web sites
> Black screen when RDP over VPN
> Situation: The client has a site-to-site VPN setup with two Sonicwall
> firewall. It works fine. He can ping anything on the remote sites and vice
> versa.
> Problem: When he tries to RDP to the server he gets the blank screen and
> the banner at the top, but the log in window never appears and it
> eventually times out and says broken network connection.
> Troubleshooting: Since this is DSL line, we suspect this is MTU issue. So,
> we use this commend "ping -l 1500 -f IP address" to test it. We receive
> "Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set" and "Packets: Sent = 4,
> Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss)". That confirms that is MTU issues.
>
> Resolution: Use the ping to test and lower MTU. Finally, We reduce MTU
> from 1500 to 1400 in the SonicWall. Then he can use RDC over VPN.
> Related Topics
> How to change MTU
> Connectivity issues after ms05-019 and 2003 sp1
> Troubleshooting terminal server issues
> VPN drop connection
> VPN slow issues
>
> Don't send e-mail or reply to me except you need consulting services.
> Posting on MS newsgroup will benefit all readers and you may get more
> help.
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> How to Setup Windows, Network, Remote Access on
> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties.
> "Thomas" <me@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OuOZJo5WFHA.2692@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> after installation of w2k3 sp1 i have serious tcp problems.
>
> the problems:
> - 3-5% ping loss to *any* non-localhost-ip
> - ftp uploads fail if file size is greater than 8kb ("unable to open data
> connection" / "data connection timeout")
> - outlook express fails to send out smtp mails ("unable to connect to
> server")
> - vpn connection breaks up every other minute
>
> the setup:
> - this is an out-of-the box configuration. the machine has 2 different
> interfaces, both having these problems.
> - windows firewall is disabled.
> - tcp/ip filtering is disabled.
> - windows 2000 on same machine works fine!
>
> the workaround:
> - packet loss: no clue so far
> - sending out mails: when resetting the network interface (i.e.:
> disabling/enabling the nic), operation works for a few minutes as it
> should.
>
> it looks like some problems with the tcp-ip stack here. connecting to the
> target socket works, but resulting in a timeout from time to time before
> any
> data is sent.
>
> any pointers how to further test and elaborate the problem is more than
> welcome! i've spent hours trying and countless reinstals to solve this
> problem without any luck.
>
> would be sad to switch back to w2k ;-(
>
> - thomas
>


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