Re: DC's Missing From Browse List
From: Steven L Umbach (n9rou_at_nospam-comcast.net)
Date: 02/08/05
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 15:56:48 -0600
Like I said, browse list problems can be a real PIA. Run the command net
config server on both of them to make sure they are not reported as being
hidden. I would also run the support tool netdiag on both of the dc's to see
if anything unusual is reported. Note that it is not unusual for netdiag to
complain that workstation service is not bound to any adapter for whatever
reason but I always still like to use it. I am keeping my fingers crossed
that this will sort itself out with time as I am about out of ideas also. Oh
one more thing I just though of, open Local Security Policy on the two
domain controllers and make sure that the security option for "additional
restrictions for anonymous access" is NOT set to "no access without explicit
anonymous permissions". Look under security settings/local polices/security
options. See the KB link below for more info on how this setting can cause
browse problems and the associated registry key that you may want to
check.--- Steve
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=246261 -- make sure this setting is NOT
enabled.
"Alan Ruddock" <AlanRuddock@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7A443091-A8C9-4722-8206-FA440E917DF1@microsoft.com...
> Steve,
>
> Amazingly that still has not fixed the problem.
>
> I have stopped the browser service on the DC which is also a RAS server
> and
> now browstat reports the other DC (PDC FSMO) as the master browser from
> all
> machines i have tried.
>
> I have run nbtstat -RR run on each DC, both lmhosts files are clean, the
> net view command returns correctly for both DC's when run from anywhere
> and
> they are accessible via a UNC path typed into the run command.
>
> Still however they are not on the browse list.
>
> Is there a setting i do not know about on DC's (perhapse a recent security
> patch) which hides them from the browse list ?? Its all i can come up with
> ...
>
> Alan
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Steven L Umbach" wrote:
>
>> You seem to have a conflict in that both domain controllers believe that
>> they are the master browser and the workstation believes it is DC02
>> though
>> the nbtstat -n from DC01 shows it to be the domain master browser
>> [1B,1D]. I
>> assume these domain controllers are on the same subnet as each subnet
>> will
>> need it's own segment master browser. The link below explains the
>> problems
>> that can arise from multi homed domain controllers and the browse list
>> and
>> some solutions and other things to check. What I would suggest trying is
>> to
>> stop the computer browser service on the domain controller that is a ras
>> server and set the startup to manual. That will prevent it from becoming
>> a
>> master browser. If that domain controller is also the pdc fsmo, consider
>> transferring that role to another domain controller if at all possible.
>> Also
>> verify that each domain controller can see itself when you use " net view
>> "
>> command.
>>
>> If you make some changes, do not expect the browse list to correct itself
>> right away but within a hour or so and if wins is used on the network run
>> the command " nbtstat -RR " being sure to use uppercase on the domain
>> controllers shortly after making the changes and check the wins database
>> for
>> correct records and examine any static records for accuracy for the
>> domain
>> controllers or master browsers if any, which normally there are not. I
>> would
>> also check the lmhosts files on the domain controllers to make sure there
>> are not old entries used to map to the IP address of the PDC. It is
>> curious
>> that there had not been a problem before but the whole browse list
>> mechanism
>> is fickle to say the least. When I read Mark Minasi's Mastering Windows
>> 2003
>> Server, he even admits he can not figure out browse list problems all the
>> time --- Steve
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;135404 -- multi
>> homed master browser problems.
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q163409/ -- explaination of netbios 16th
>> character that shows in wins database and with nbtstat -n.
>>
>> "Alan Ruddock" <AlanRuddock@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:0EA6971D-29F0-456F-BBF0-D73D1F198A3D@microsoft.com...
>> > Steven,
>> >
>> > Firstly thanks for your time, answers to your questions follow ...
>> >
>> > There were no changes i know of at the time the DCs dissapeared from
>> > the
>> > browse list (althought obviously something has happened).
>> >
>> > I should have mentioned earlier that one of the DCs is a RAS Server.
>> > This
>> > has been the case for a long time though and the problems are recent.
>> >
>> > All event logs on both machines are clear.
>> >
>> > The results of nbtstat -n and browstat status follow ....
>> >
>> > On DC01 the PDC emulator ...
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > C:\>nbtstat -a DC01
>> >
>> > Local Area Connection:
>> > Node IpAddress: [10.x.x.205] Scope Id: []
>> >
>> > NetBIOS Remote Machine Name Table
>> >
>> > Name Type Status
>> > ---------------------------------------------
>> > DC01 <00> UNIQUE Registered
>> > MYDOMAIN <00> GROUP Registered
>> > MYDOMAIN <1C> GROUP Registered
>> > DC01 <20> UNIQUE Registered
>> > MYDOMAIN <1B> UNIQUE Registered
>> > DC01 <03> UNIQUE Registered
>> > MYDOMAIN <1E> GROUP Registered
>> > MYDOMAIN <1D> UNIQUE Registered
>> > ..__MSBROWSE__.<01> GROUP Registered
>> >
>> > MAC Address = 00-30-6E-06-8F-55
>> >
>> > C:\>nbtstat -a DC02
>> >
>> > Local Area Connection:
>> > Node IpAddress: [10.x.x.205] Scope Id: []
>> >
>> > NetBIOS Remote Machine Name Table
>> >
>> > Name Type Status
>> > ---------------------------------------------
>> > DC02 <00> UNIQUE Registered
>> > MYDOMAIN <00> GROUP Registered
>> > MYDOMAIN <1C> GROUP Registered
>> > DC02 <20> UNIQUE Registered
>> > MYDOMAIN <1E> GROUP Registered
>> >
>> > MAC Address = 00-30-6E-06-2F-DB
>> >
>> > C:\>browstat status
>> >
>> > Status for domain MYDOMAIN on transport
>> > \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{2F99145C-8DCD-400F-8
>> > A8A-5F53723EDF5A}
>> > Browsing is active on domain.
>> > Master browser name is: DC01
>> > Master browser is running build 3790
>> > 2 backup servers retrieved from master DC01
>> > \\SVR01
>> > \\DC01
>> > There are 43 servers in domain MYDOMAIN on transport
>> > \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{2F9
>> > 9145C-8DCD-400F-8A8A-5F53723EDF5A}
>> > There are 4 domains in domain MYDOMAIN on transport
>> > \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{2F99
>> > 145C-8DCD-400F-8A8A-5F53723EDF5A}
>> >
>> >
>> > On DC02 ...
>> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > C:\>browstat status
>> >
>> >
>> > Status for domain MYDOMAIN on transport
>> > \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{CC87E309-1AC7-4CAF-8
>> > 6CC-6C065140FD22}
>> > Browsing is active on domain.
>> > Master browser name is: DC02
>> > Master browser is running build 3790
>> > 3 backup servers retrieved from master DC02
>> > \\SVR01
>> > \\WKD03
>> > \\DC01
>> > There are 43 servers in domain MYDOMAIN on transport
>> > \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{CC8
>> > 7E309-1AC7-4CAF-86CC-6C065140FD22}
>> > There are 4 domains in domain MYDOMAIN on transport
>> > \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{CC87
>> > E309-1AC7-4CAF-86CC-6C065140FD22}
>> >
>> >
>> > Status for domain MYDOMAIN on transport
>> > \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{20A3573A-2A90-4E89-8
>> > E3B-321DADEACD40}
>> > Browsing is NOT active on domain.
>> > Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus.
>> >
>> >
>> > On a workstation ...
>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> > Status for domain MYDOMAIN on transport
>> > \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{CFF558D9-D2CB-4F39-9
>> > 99D-9E4454CE4053}
>> > Browsing is active on domain.
>> > Master browser name is: DC02
>> > Master browser is running build 3790
>> > 3 backup servers retrieved from master DC02
>> > \\SVR01
>> > \\DC01
>> > \\WKD04
>> > There are 43 servers in domain MYDOMAIN on transport
>> > \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{CFF
>> > 558D9-D2CB-4F39-999D-9E4454CE4053}
>> > There are 4 domains in domain MYDOMAIN on transport
>> > \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{CFF5
>> > 58D9-D2CB-4F39-999D-9E4454CE4053}
>> >
>> >
>> > Any further thoughts ...
>> >
>> > Alan
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Steven L Umbach" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Have there been any configuration changes lately such as changing
>> >> security
>> >> policy or adding a network adapter to a domain controller?? Multi
>> >> homed
>> >> domain controllers [or being a remote access server] are the biggest
>> >> cause
>> >> of browsing problems. I would run the command " nbtstat -n " to make
>> >> sure
>> >> each dc shows at least three registered names and check the Event
>> >> Viewer
>> >> logs to see if any browse list related problems are reported. Verify
>> >> that
>> >> each domain controller is also a wins client, which would be itself in
>> >> your
>> >> case. You can use the browstat tool to troubleshoot browse problems.
>> >> Run
>> >> "
>> >> browstat status " for instance to find out the names of the master
>> >> browsers. --- Steve
>> >>
>> >> http://www.petri.co.il/download_free_reskit_tools.htm --- download
>> >> browstat here.
>> >>
>> >> "Alan Ruddock" <AlanRuddock@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> message
>> >> news:443680E0-8147-4A65-A8C8-E28CDF13B7D1@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Group,
>> >> >
>> >> > I am looking after a Windows 2003 AD Domain and a few weeks ago the
>> >> > Domain
>> >> > Comtrollers all dropped off the browse list. I have read through a
>> >> > lot
>> >> > of
>> >> > material on similar problems and can find no way to resolve the
>> >> > problem
>> >> > so
>> >> > i
>> >> > am asking for any suggestions you may have.
>> >> >
>> >> > The Setup ...
>> >> >
>> >> > All the computers in the Domain are on the same subnet, the DC's can
>> >> > be
>> >> > accessed via the run command snd drives can be mapped to them. The
>> >> > master
>> >> > browser on the subnet is the PDC emulator which is set to be the
>> >> > DomainMsster.
>> >> >
>> >> > As the Doamin is small each of the domain controller runs AD, DHCP,
>> >> > WINS
>> >> > and
>> >> > DNS, this has always been the case, long before the problems
>> >> > started.
>> >> >
>> >> > Any Thoughts ...
>> >> >
>> >> > Alan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
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