Re: ACL Permissions

From: Steven L Umbach (n9rou_at_nospam-comcast.net)
Date: 12/20/04

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    You can use the free tool Dumpsec from Somarsoft or the Resource Kit tool
    showacl to see permissions to a folder or folders. Try adding the user that
    is denied access normally to the local administrators group to see what
    happens. If that works then I tend to think the user is lacking a user
    right. If it does not work then I think the user is a member of a group that
    has deny permissions applied somewhere along the line. To check user rights,
    open Local Security Policy [secpol.msc] and look for any user right where
    both administrators and IUSR user are included but the user or group that
    the user is a member of is not. Also keep in mind that any "deny" user right
    will override he same allow user right so take a close look at any deny user
    rights. Verify the user group membership with the " net user username "
    command [using real user name of course]. --- Steve

    http://www.somarsoft.com/ --- Dumpsec.

    "John Pugh" <john@cyber-media.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:OMkOwNo5EHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
    > It works as an Administrator, but not as a User even though the user in
    > question is in the right groups, is there anyway to see what permissions
    > each of the groups get? so that I can see what is difference between the
    > working boxes and this one.
    >
    > Cheers
    >
    > John
    >
    > "Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@nospam-comcast.net> wrote in message
    > news:euvf7544EHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
    >> Hmm. I can't think of much else other than also checking the special
    >> permissions for that folder in security/advanced to make sure that there
    >> is no group with deny permissions and also viewing the "effective
    >> permissions" tab for your user. Another thing to try is temporally add
    >> that user to the local administrators group or use the built in
    >> administrator account as the access account temporally to see if that
    >> works. If that does work then there is a lack of permission or privilege
    >> for the regular user account. If it does not work something else weird is
    >> going on. Check the group membership of the user accounts that you are
    >> using to make sure that they are at least members of the local users
    >> group. --- Steve
    >>
    >>
    >> "John Pugh" <john@cyber-media.co.uk> wrote in message
    >> news:u5Tg2t14EHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
    >>> Hi Steve & Everyone else,
    >>>
    >>> I have looked through the local policy and everything seems the same
    >>> between the boxes, I setup auditing, but again I get no failures and the
    >>> box that is not working produces the same results as the others yet it
    >>> still won't let me view the web pages, grrr.
    >>>
    >>> If it was a office computer I would be reinstalling windows at this
    >>> point! but as it is in a data centre 100 miles away, thats not an
    >>> option. By the way it is a stand alone server and not part of a domain
    >>>
    >>> Thanks for all your help, anymore suggestions ?
    >>>
    >>> John
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@nospam-comcast.net> wrote in message
    >>> news:egjPCsv4EHA.2604@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
    >>>> Enable auditing on logon events for success and failure and privilege
    >>>> use and object access for failure [probably only temporally]. Enable
    >>>> auditing on that folder for that user. Then look in the security logs
    >>>> and Event Viewer in general for any possible helpful messages. I would
    >>>> also look in Local Security Policy on each computer and look for any
    >>>> differences under local policies for security options or user rights.
    >>>> Any differences found between the two boxes could be suspect. Also
    >>>> check any deny permissions to the folder which you user could be
    >>>> affected by group membership. If this is a domain computer, run the
    >>>> netdiag support tool on it looking for any pertinent errors. -- Steve
    >>>>
    >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;301640 --
    >>>> needs object access enable first.
    >>>>
    >>>> "John Pugh" <john@cyber-media.co.uk> wrote in message
    >>>> news:OU6E3$r4EHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
    >>>>> Thanks for the reply, I have compared the permissions between the two
    >>>>> boxes (one that works and this one) and I can see very little
    >>>>> differences, none in sections that I think might affect this problem
    >>>>> is there anything specific that I should be looking for?
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "Andra" <andraatlatnetdotlv> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:emKIJNr4EHA.1400@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>> Policies? Especially concerning the way the password is sent over the
    >>>>>> network.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> John Pugh wrote
    >>>>>>> Hi,
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> I am having problem that I thought some of you might be able to
    >>>>>>> help,
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> The problem is that we have created a directory on a 2k3 standard
    >>>>>>> box that
    >>>>>>> can only be accessed using a set username and password (used for
    >>>>>>> accessing
    >>>>>>> web stats over the internet) I have done this many times before
    >>>>>>> without a
    >>>>>>> hitch but on one of our boxes it does want to work at all!
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> I have given the SYSTEM full control, Administrators full control
    >>>>>>> and
    >>>>>>> stats-viewer (the user who needs access) read and read & execute.
    >>>>>>> This is
    >>>>>>> the standard setup I have on all our boxes. I have also tried
    >>>>>>> recreating
    >>>>>> all
    >>>>>>> the permissions the wwwroot directory has and putting it in the
    >>>>>>> wwwroot
    >>>>>>> directory to no avail.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> With the IUSR user in place it works, allowing anonymous access,
    >>>>>>> therefore
    >>>>>>> IIS is pointing to the right place and serving up the pages so that
    >>>>>>> is
    >>>>>>> working, but when IUSR access is taken away it throws back a "HTTP
    >>>>>>> Error
    >>>>>>> 401.3 - Unauthorized: Access is denied due to an ACL set on the
    >>>>>>> requested
    >>>>>>> resource." error when trying to login as stats-viewer. I have tried
    >>>>>>> using
    >>>>>>> Integrated and basic authentication, changing the user, changing the
    >>>>>>> directory, creating a new web site in IIS, using Authdiag (which
    >>>>>>> doesn't
    >>>>>>> seem to shed light on the problem) all without success.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Can anyone help, its doing my head in!!!
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Many thanks,
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> John Pugh
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >>
    >
    >


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