Re: 2003 server and win 98 clients
From: Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] (lanwench_at_heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com)
Date: 10/11/04
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:23:36 -0400
anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com wrote:
> yes i do have wins setup on the new server, or at leat i
> have it installed, i have not done any manual entry of
> addresses or anything like that, but i didnt think i
> needed to under normal circumstances.
Right - it's supposed to be dynamically populated/updated. Is it, on the SBS
server? Is DHCP on the SBS box dishing out the WINS server IP to all clients
(0x8, hybrid node)?
> wins is also setup
> on the win nt 4 server as well,could that be a conflict?
Did you set up a push-pull replication between the two WINS servers? Also,
each server should point to itself for WINS...although given that you have
two domains I don't think you really need to do this....
>
> i have also installed the dsclient for win 98, when i log
> the win 98 client into the old domain i can see hte old
> domain in netneighborhood, and i can see the new domain,
> but if i try to broese into the new domain i get not
> accessable error.
If you take the NT server offline do you have the same problems with the
clients? Remember, SBS doesn't support trusts, so you really need to flatten
out your network to have the single SBS domain. I'd migrate the data off the
NT server and onto the SBS server, then rebuild the NT4 box -
Also note - Win98 can be made to work within a domain environment but it
isn't ideal. You can't join 9x PCs to a domain - they can only participate
in shared resources on it, and it isn't much fun. Any chance you can upgrade
clients to XP Pro?
Win9x also can't map drives/connect to shares (such as on the other domain)
with alternate credentials, if I'm not mistaken (it's been a while since
I've used it).
>
> since my first post i have discovered there is a product
> called upromote that can help with the nt 4.0 issue, any
> comment on that product
It isn't supported - many people have used it and liked it, but I'd rather
not use unsupported tools on servers. If you end up having problems down the
road, and have to call PSS, they'll tell you to reinstall anyway, so I'd
just avoid that potential problem.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> tcicraig wrote:
>>> i have installed a 2003 sbs server on cuurent company
>>> network, network is controlled by a win nt4 server that i
>>> wish to make just a memeber server to continue to use a
>>> application and database that is on it. all of the
>>> clients are win 98 clients. when i configured the new
>>> server I assumed that i would give the domain a new name
>>> and join the clients to the new domain then switch the
>>> old DC server to a member server on the new domain.
>>>
>>> Problem #1 is when i join the win 98 clients to the new
>>> domain, they log in fine and are able to use new shares,
>>> but i can not browse using network neighborhood on the
>>> clients. but if i go to my network place on the sbs 2003
>>> server i can see the server and any workststion that i
>>> have logged in. i have worked with all normal procedures
>>> to make browsing available but no luck
>>
>> Got WINS set up?
>>>
>>> problem #2, i see no way to demote dc on old domain to
>>> member server on new domain. when i go to server
>>> management on the nt4 server the demote and promote
>>> options are not available, i am wondering if this is
>>> because there is only one dc in the same domain of the
>>> old server, i seen kb articles relating to demoting a pdc
>>> if there are two dc's on the same network but not if
>>> there isd only one.
>>
>> Alas, you will have to reinstall the NT server - you can't demote an
>> NT DC to a member server. You can demote it to a BDC, but to make it
>> participate in another domain, a clean install is required.
>>
>>
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