RE: Failed to create a trust relationship between NT4 and 2003 AD



Hi Vincent,

Thanks for your reply in advance.

1) I've totally followed the refernce and my entry on LMHOST is like below,
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192.168.1.1 NT4PDC #PRE #DOM:NT4domain
192.168.1.1 "NT4domain \0x1b" #PRE
# IP Address "123456789012345*7890"
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Both DC can't be ping by each other, but it can be resolved the name by ping
-a [IP].
When I tried to use NET VIEW on W2K3 server, it said "System error 5
occurred. Access is denied" message.
If I tried on NT4 server, the message is "System error 53 occurred. Network
path can not be found.".

2) For all security setting, is that a must to do for all setting when NT4
migrated to W2K3 server? Because I didn't find these kinds of information
from the web on migration procedure.

3) & 4) Where to set the User rights and Group Membership coz I'm not
familiar with the AD.

Thanks very much for your kindly help.

Regards,
ODBC


"Vincent Xu [MSFT]" wrote:

Hi,

Seems to be a duplicate post. Whatever, make the reply more detail:

1. Check that the LMHOSTS file is in the correct location and formatted
properly
- Location: %SystemRoot%\System32\Drivers\Etc
- Formatting: Spacing is crucial with the 0x1b entry in the example. There
needs to be 20 spaces (characters) inside the " " marks. The domain name is
padded with spaces to use 15 characters. The 16th character is the
backslash followed by the "0x1b" value.

314108 How to Write an LMHOSTS File for Domain Validation and Other Name
Resolution Issues
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;314108

Once loaded into the cache correctly, test connectivity.
- PING each DC (e.g. "ping NT4PDCName" and "ping W2KPDCName")
- NET VIEW each DC (e.g. "net view \\NT4PDCName" and "net view
\\W2KPDCName")

Let me know the results.

2. SECURITY SETTINGS
Most commonly the Active Directory side is the "locked down" side of the
trust that causes problems. However, both sides must be checked.

For Windows 2000 and 2003 these settings may be applied/configured via
group policy or a local policy (or applied security template). When
determining the current values of these settings it is imperative that the
proper tools be used or inaccurate readings may occur.

- Enable Winlogon logging
How to Enable Logging for Security Configuration Client Processing in
Windows 2000
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=245422

- Look at the local cache of the group policy applied security policies.
Event ID 1000 and event ID 1202 are logged to the event log every five
minutes in Windows 2003 Server
http://kb/article.asp?id=319352

Ensure the following settings are configured as shown:
RestrictAnonymous and RestrictAnonymousSam
- Network access: Allow anonymous SID/Name translation ENABLED
- Network access: Do not allow anonymous enumeration of SAM accounts
DISABLED
- Network access: Do not allow anonymous enumeration of SAM accounts and
shares DISABLED
- Network access: Let Everyone permissions apply to anonymous users
ENABLED
- Network access: Named pipes can be accessed anonymously ENABLED
- Network access: Restrict anonymous access to Named Pipes and shares
DISABLED

LM Compatibility
- Network security: LAN Manager authentication level: "LM & NTLM
responses" or
"Send LM & NTLM - use NTLMV2 session
security if negotiated"

SMB Signing and/or Encrypting
- Microsoft network client: Digitally sign communications (always)
DISABLED
- Microsoft network client: Digitally sign communications (if server
agrees) ENABLED
- Microsoft network server: Digitally sign communications (always)
DISABLED
- Microsoft network server: Digitally sign communications (if client
agrees) ENABLED
- Domain member: Digitally encrypt or sign secure channel data (always)
DISABLED

- Domain member: Digitally encrypt secure channel data (when possible)
ENABLED

- Domain member: Digitally sign secure channel data (when possible)
ENABLED
- Domain member: Require strong (Windows 2000 or later) session key
DISABLED

Once the settings are properly configured, reboot. After reboot ensure the
values are still set as expected.

With NT4 the only way to verify the settings is with the Regedt32 tool.


Registry and Group Policy locations for the above values:
RestrictAnonymous
- Windows NT registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Rdr\Parameters

LM Compatibility
- Windows NT/2000/2003 registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\LsaLMCompatibilityLevel

RequireSecuritySignature (server)
- Windows NT registry:
HKey_Local_Machine\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Rdr\Parameters\RequireS
ecurityS
ignature

RequireSignOrSeal
- Windows NT/2000/2003 registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netlogon\Parameters

SignSecureChannel
- Windows NT/2000/2003 registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netlogon\Parameters

RequireStrongKey
- Windows NT/2000/2003 registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netlogon\Parameters

3. USER RIGHTS
Ensure User Rights are set as the following:
- Access this computer from network Everyone
- Deny access to this computer from network Does not contain a principal
that would affect the PDC (e.g. Everyone, Authenticated Users, etc)

4. GROUP MEMBERSHIP
This aspect only applies to 2003 domain controllers.

Ensure the following group memberships are in place.
Pre-Windows 2000 compatible access group contains:

- Windows 2003: Everyone, Anonymous Logon
Note: "Anonymous Logon" must be added if the "Let Everyone permissions
apply to anonymous users" policy setting is not enabled.

OK, let me know the results.

Best regards,

Vincent Xu
Microsoft Online Partner Support

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Subject: Failed to create a trust relationship between NT4 and 2003 AD
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Dear all,

I got a NT4 domain with "SP3" only, would like to migrate its user
accounts (> 1000) to a new 2003 AD. Right now I have trouble on
creating the trust relationship between them.

I did the entries for both DCs on LMHOSTS file. I did the WINS service
and created the Static Mapping entries for the opposite DC.

My problem is:

I can't create the one-way or two-way trust relationship between NT and
2003 AD. On the NT4 PDC, I created a Trusting domain into Policy and
entered the password. But I can't create a Trusted domain and the error
said "Could not find domain controller for this domain". On the 2003
AD, I created a New Trust and the NT4 domain name can be recognized,
but failed into the last step and got this error on the validation.

"Verification of the trust between the domains was unsuccessful
because: Access is denied"

What my case is very similar with this link but even I disabled the
"Require Strong (Windows 2000 or later)" session key, the problem is
still existed.
http://www.eggheadcafe.com/ng/microsoft.public.windows.server.migration/po
st643927.asp

I tried the below:

On the Network Neighbour I can browse into the NT4 domain with their
related computers from 2003 AD server. I still can do browsing into
2003 domain from NT4 DC server and listing their related computers, but
I can't access it regarding the trust relationship failure.

I even followed some case to find a "Restriced Anonymous" registry to
make it 0, but I can't find this entry into my server. Can anyone
help???!!!!!!!!!!! I'm exhausted to find the solution for this
problem. Please help!!!!!!!!!! Thanks a lot.

Regards,
ODBC




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