RE: Win NT to Win2k3 Upgrade
- From: "Jeremy J" <JeremyJ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:26:12 -0700
Hi Amanda, ok followed the route where i made a bdc then upgraded to pdc.
Installed Service pack 6a, installed
IE6. On the box it says : Windows small business server 2003 premium edition
and it has a upgrade sticker on it aswell. I insert CD1, goto i386 dir and
run winnt32.exe. It launches but it does not give me the option to upgrade.
What could be the problem?
"Amanda Wang [MSFT]" wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm glad to hear from you.
>
> First, please help me confirm your current demands:
>
> 1. Your old NT4 server's hardware cannot support Win2k3 server and you want
> to install Win2k3 on a new box
> 2. You want to keep the original domain name in new Win2k3 domain
> 3. There are many users and profiles under my current domain name
>
> For the current situation and based on my experience, it is recommended to
> use the upgrade process to achieve the goal, it just like your second
> concern as following and it should be a good way, however you need to make
> sure you have another machine which can support both WinNT and Win2k3
> server.
>
> What if I add a bdc to current domain with pdc (NT4), take the bdc of the
> net and promote it to pdc, upgrade to Win2k3, take the original NT4 pdc of
> the network and add the new win2k3 pdc to the network. Will that also work?
>
> Following are the detailed steps about how to perform upgrade process:
>
> As a kind reminder, please backup the whole system before you take any
> action. Also, it is best if you perform the upgrade process during a
> non-business time such as the weekend.
>
> 1.Install NT 4.0 BDC on the new box.
>
> 2.Promote the BDC to the PDC, which demotes the PDC to a BDC.
>
> 3.Do a full backup of the former PDC and remove it from the network.
>
> 4.Upgrade the new PDC to Windows Server 2003.
>
> 5.Use the Windows Server 2003 Active Directory wizard to turn on the Active
> Directory service. The Active Directory service imports the existing user
> accounts, groups, and other settings from the PDC.
>
> How to Verify an Active Directory Installation
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;298143
>
> 6.Run for a test period.
>
> 7.Add the new Windows Server 2003, and bring it online as an Active
> Directory domain controller.
>
> 8.Transfer GC and all Flexible Single-Master Operation (FSMO) roles to the
> new Windows Server 2003 domain controller.
>
> About how to transfer GC and FSMO, please refer to the following articles:
>
> Configure a domain controller as a global catalog server (Windows Server
> 2003)
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/proddocs/stan
> dard/msmqconcepts/msmq_inst_set_gc.asp
>
> 255690 - HOW TO View and Transfer FSMO Roles in the Graphical User
> Interface:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;255690&Product=win20
> 00#4
>
> 9.Verify all directory information has replicated.
>
> Verify successful replication to a domain controller
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/library/Opera
> tions/00e7f86b-ccd3-4cb8-9a01-bf747241b500.mspx
>
> 10.Demote the first domain controller to a member server, and remove from
> the domain.
>
> HTH!
>
> Thanks & Regards
>
> Amanda Wang [MSFT]
>
> Microsoft Online Partner Support
>
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>
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> >Thank you for your quick responce. I have some more qeustions, I
> >dont want to change domain names cause i have alot of users
> >and profiles under my current domain name, or is there a way
> >to move profiles on pc's from one domain to another domain?
> >Another qeustion to this upgrade issue. What if i add a bdc to
> >current domain with pdc (NT4), take the bdc of the net and promote
> >it to pdc, upgrade to Win2k3, take the original NT4 pdc of the network
> >and add the new win2k3 pdc to the network. Will that also work ?
> >
> >
> >"Amanda Wang [MSFT]" wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Thanks for your post.
> >>
> >> I understand you encountered the issue that Win2k workstations cannot
> see
> >> the new Win2k3 PDC. If I have misunderstood, please feel free to let me
> >> know.
> >>
> >> From your description, it seems that you manually entered the users and
> >> computers account into new Win2k3 PDC. Actually, even though the
> recreated
> >> user account has the same name as the original one. However, it has
> fully
> >> different SID. That is to say, in nature it is a different user account
> >> from the original one in Windows NT domain. Therefore, for your current
> >> situation is that original WinNT hardware cannot support Win2k3, I
> >> recommend you perform the following migration steps to achieve the goal:
> >>
> >> Step 1: Install new Win2k3 system
> >>
> >> Step 2: Establish trusts between WinNT and Win2k3 to refer the following
> >> article:
> >> Note: The Windows 2k3 domain has different domain name as the Windows NT
> >> domain.
> >> How To Establish Trusts with a Windows NT-Based Domain in Windows Server
> >> 2003
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;325874
> >>
> >> Step 3: Use ADMT tool to migrate the resources from old domain to new
> >> domain.
> >>
> >> You can download ADMT from the link below:
> >> Active Directory Migration Tool v.2.0
> >>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=788975b1-5849-4707-
> >> 9817-8c9773c25c6c&DisplayLang=en
> >>
> >> About how to migrate from NT to 2003 by using ADMT, please refer to:
> >>
> >> Migrating from Windows NT Server 4.0 to Windows Server 2003
> >>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=e92cf6a0-76f0-4e25-
> >> 8de0-19544062a6e6&DisplayLang=en
> >>
> >> During migration process, the Recommended Migration Order is listed
> below
> >> for your reference:
> >> 1. Domain Global Group
> >> 2. Domain Local Group
> >> 3. User migration
> >> 4. Computer migration
> >>
> >> For detailed migration order you can refer to the following article and
> pay
> >> more attention to the Figure 9.8:
> >>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/deploy/cookbook
> >> /cookchp9.mspx
> >>
> >> Step 4: Retire the old WinNT domain.
> >>
> >> HTH!
> >>
> >> Thanks & Regards
> >>
> >> Amanda Wang [MSFT]
> >>
> >> Microsoft Online Partner Support
> >>
> >> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> >>
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> >> >Subject: Win NT to Win2k3 Upgrade
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> >> >I have recently upgraded out network from NT4 to Win2k3. The NT Domain
> >> >Controller (DC) is a old P1 machine and is inadequate for Win2k3S. I
> >> >installed it on a P4 machine and disconnected the NT4 DC from the
> network.
> >> >Entered computers and users on Win2k3 machine.
> >> >The Win2k Pro machine does not see the new Win2k3 PDC and defaults to
> >> local
> >> >profile on hdd, no shares work and there's no authentication for these
> >> win2k
> >> >machines.
> >> >All the pc's have static ip's and a gateway and our ISP's dns servers
> >> >settings is used as I connect through dedicated line to our sister
> >> company's
> >> >proxy.
> >> >
> >> >Why cant the Win2k machine's see the new PDC?
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
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