RE: Win NT to Win2k3 Upgrade

Hello,

I'm glad to hear from you.

First, please help me confirm your current demands:

1. Your old NT4 server's hardware cannot support Win2k3 server and you want
to install Win2k3 on a new box
2. You want to keep the original domain name in new Win2k3 domain
3. There are many users and profiles under my current domain name

For the current situation and based on my experience, it is recommended to
use the upgrade process to achieve the goal, it just like your second
concern as following and it should be a good way, however you need to make
sure you have another machine which can support both WinNT and Win2k3
server.

What if I add a bdc to current domain with pdc (NT4), take the bdc of the
net and promote it to pdc, upgrade to Win2k3, take the original NT4 pdc of
the network and add the new win2k3 pdc to the network. Will that also work?

Following are the detailed steps about how to perform upgrade process:

As a kind reminder, please backup the whole system before you take any
action. Also, it is best if you perform the upgrade process during a
non-business time such as the weekend.

1.Install NT 4.0 BDC on the new box.

2.Promote the BDC to the PDC, which demotes the PDC to a BDC.

3.Do a full backup of the former PDC and remove it from the network.

4.Upgrade the new PDC to Windows Server 2003.

5.Use the Windows Server 2003 Active Directory wizard to turn on the Active
Directory service. The Active Directory service imports the existing user
accounts, groups, and other settings from the PDC.

How to Verify an Active Directory Installation
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;298143

6.Run for a test period.

7.Add the new Windows Server 2003, and bring it online as an Active
Directory domain controller.

8.Transfer GC and all Flexible Single-Master Operation (FSMO) roles to the
new Windows Server 2003 domain controller.

About how to transfer GC and FSMO, please refer to the following articles:

Configure a domain controller as a global catalog server (Windows Server
2003)
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/proddocs/stan
dard/msmqconcepts/msmq_inst_set_gc.asp

255690 - HOW TO View and Transfer FSMO Roles in the Graphical User
Interface:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;255690&Product=win20
00#4

9.Verify all directory information has replicated.

Verify successful replication to a domain controller
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/library/Opera
tions/00e7f86b-ccd3-4cb8-9a01-bf747241b500.mspx

10.Demote the first domain controller to a member server, and remove from
the domain.

HTH!

Thanks & Regards

Amanda Wang [MSFT]

Microsoft Online Partner Support

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>Thank you for your quick responce. I have some more qeustions, I
>dont want to change domain names cause i have alot of users
>and profiles under my current domain name, or is there a way
>to move profiles on pc's from one domain to another domain?
>Another qeustion to this upgrade issue. What if i add a bdc to
>current domain with pdc (NT4), take the bdc of the net and promote
>it to pdc, upgrade to Win2k3, take the original NT4 pdc of the network
>and add the new win2k3 pdc to the network. Will that also work ?
>
>
>"Amanda Wang [MSFT]" wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Thanks for your post.
>>
>> I understand you encountered the issue that Win2k workstations cannot
see
>> the new Win2k3 PDC. If I have misunderstood, please feel free to let me
>> know.
>>
>> From your description, it seems that you manually entered the users and
>> computers account into new Win2k3 PDC. Actually, even though the
recreated
>> user account has the same name as the original one. However, it has
fully
>> different SID. That is to say, in nature it is a different user account
>> from the original one in Windows NT domain. Therefore, for your current
>> situation is that original WinNT hardware cannot support Win2k3, I
>> recommend you perform the following migration steps to achieve the goal:
>>
>> Step 1: Install new Win2k3 system
>>
>> Step 2: Establish trusts between WinNT and Win2k3 to refer the following
>> article:
>> Note: The Windows 2k3 domain has different domain name as the Windows NT
>> domain.
>> How To Establish Trusts with a Windows NT-Based Domain in Windows Server
>> 2003
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;325874
>>
>> Step 3: Use ADMT tool to migrate the resources from old domain to new
>> domain.
>>
>> You can download ADMT from the link below:
>> Active Directory Migration Tool v.2.0
>>
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=788975b1-5849-4707-
>> 9817-8c9773c25c6c&DisplayLang=en
>>
>> About how to migrate from NT to 2003 by using ADMT, please refer to:
>>
>> Migrating from Windows NT Server 4.0 to Windows Server 2003
>>
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=e92cf6a0-76f0-4e25-
>> 8de0-19544062a6e6&DisplayLang=en
>>
>> During migration process, the Recommended Migration Order is listed
below
>> for your reference:
>> 1. Domain Global Group
>> 2. Domain Local Group
>> 3. User migration
>> 4. Computer migration
>>
>> For detailed migration order you can refer to the following article and
pay
>> more attention to the Figure 9.8:
>>
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/deploy/cookbook
>> /cookchp9.mspx
>>
>> Step 4: Retire the old WinNT domain.
>>
>> HTH!
>>
>> Thanks & Regards
>>
>> Amanda Wang [MSFT]
>>
>> Microsoft Online Partner Support
>>
>> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>>
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>> >I have recently upgraded out network from NT4 to Win2k3. The NT Domain
>> >Controller (DC) is a old P1 machine and is inadequate for Win2k3S. I
>> >installed it on a P4 machine and disconnected the NT4 DC from the
network.
>> >Entered computers and users on Win2k3 machine.
>> >The Win2k Pro machine does not see the new Win2k3 PDC and defaults to
>> local
>> >profile on hdd, no shares work and there's no authentication for these
>> win2k
>> >machines.
>> >All the pc's have static ip's and a gateway and our ISP's dns servers
>> >settings is used as I connect through dedicated line to our sister
>> company's
>> >proxy.
>> >
>> >Why cant the Win2k machine's see the new PDC?
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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