RE: 2 x DC, 2 sites and NT4 servers same domain HELP

Hi Amanda,

Thanks for your help, but i am doing a fresh install of win 03. Currently
our two sites use nt4, site one has the pdc and site two has the bdc. I am
looking to install a dc to include exchange 03 at site one and a dc in site
two, keeping the domain in mixed mode, so i can join my old nt servers.

How do i go about setting up the sites and can i install dns and dhcp on
each of the servers, therefore reducing the amount of traffice via the
ADSL/VPN connection.

Thank You

MO

"Amanda Wang [MSFT]" wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Thanks for your post.
>
> I understand you want to upgrade NT PDC and BDC to 2k3. If I have
> misunderstood, please feel free to let me know.
>
> Based on my experience, you are right that first upgrade PDC to 2k3 and
> then BDC. Between the sites, we recommend you using AD integrated DNS.
> This make the Windows 2k3 domain between the two sites maintain a same DNS
> database. It would perform a synchronization every a period of time.
> Additional, the additional Windows 2k3 DC at the remote site would have a
> replica AD database with the Windows 2k3 PDC. So all the user and computer
> account information reside in the same AD database.
>
> For your current situation, we highly recommend a "not in place" upgrade
> path for security purpose.
>
> As a kind reminder, please backup the whole system before you take any
> action. Also, it is best if you perform the upgrade process during a
> non-business time such as the weekend. :)
>
> Performing a "not in place" upgrade
> ======================
>
> 1.Install NT 4.0 BDC on the new box.
>
> 2.Promote the BDC to the PDC, which demotes the PDC to a BDC.
>
> 3.Do a full backup of the former PDC and remove it from the
> network.
>
> 4.Upgrade the new PDC to Windows Server 2003.
> If you want to expand the boot partition, please refer to the
> following KB:
>
> 325857 How To Expand the Boot Partition During a Windows Server
> 2003 Upgrade
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=325857
>
> 5.Use the Windows Server 2003 Active Directory wizard to turn on
> the Active Directory service. The Active Directory service imports the
> existing user accounts, groups, and other settings from the PDC.
>
> How to Verify an Active Directory Installation
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;298143
>
> 6.Run for a test period.
>
> 7.If desired you can do a clean installation of Windows Server 2003
> on the former PDC, and bring it online as an Active Directory domain
> controller.
>
> 8.Transfer all Flexible Single-Master Operation (FSMO) roles to the
> new Windows Server 2003 domain controller.
>
> 9.Verify all directory information has replicated.
>
> Verify successful replication to a domain controller
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/library/Opera
> tions/00e7f86b-ccd3-4cb8-9a01-bf747241b500.mspx
>
> 10.Demote the first domain controller to a member server, and
> remove from the domain.
>
> Then perform the same steps above to upgrade the BDC in site 2. Meanwhile,
> I suggest you designate the BDC to be global catalog servers so that the
> BDC can perform the GC role in site 2. You can designate other domain
> controllers to be global catalog servers if they are needed. For more info
> related GC, please refer to:
>
> Domain Controller Roles
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/library/TechR
> ef/c7ea7ed1-4241-4794-9ce8-471da6a3a727.mspx
>
> I suggest you check the following KB articles to migrate to Win2k3 from NT4:
>
> Migrating Windows NT Server 4.0 Domains to Windows Server 2003 Active
> Directory
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/whyupgrade/nt4/nt4domt
> oad.mspx
>
> Upgrading from Windows NT Server 4.0 to Windows Server 2003
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/whyupgrade/nt4/nt4tows
> 03-2.mspx
>
> About your concern of that after having setup the first DC on a new server,
> how do you then join the second DC and NT servers to the domain, please
> don't worry about it.
>
> You can join the second DC just as add an additional server in domain as
> following:
>
> Create an additional domain controller
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/library/Serve
> rHelp/4aae5014-fbce-42dc-b5f7-e1dde3072f38.mspx
>
> You can add NT servers to win2k3 domain. However, we do not recommend you
> doing so because there are many functions and GPOs in win2k3 domain cannot
> be used and applied on them.
>
> HTH!
>
> Thanks & Regards
>
> Amanda Wang [MSFT]
>
> Microsoft Online Partner Support
>
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> >Hi,
> >
> >We are currently running NT PDC and member server at site one, at site two
> >we have a BDC. The connection for the two sites is via VPN ADSL.
> >
> >So what i would like to know is can i setup both the new Win 03 servers a
> >DC's with AD, each site will do their own DNS and DHCP, but have the same
> >users and computers db and after having setup the first DC on a new
> server,
> >how do i then join the second and DC and NT servers to the domain.
> >
> >Thanks for all your help
> >
> >Mo
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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