Re: ADMT VS 3rd Party Tools

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From: OJ (oj_at_myserver.com)
Date: 03/16/05 

Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:06:49 -0000

Many thanks to all who replied.
I'm upgrading 5 NT4 domains each with around 150 accounts.
There will be a small amount of server consolidation, but the domains will
remain - albeit as child domains of a root rather than the complete trust
model we have in NT4.
time is not a major issue, money can be spent if it is justified.
expertese - i have the MCSE in 2000 and NT4 - plus a copy of technet !

many thanks again
OJ

"Don Wilwol" <donwilwol@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I have performed several migrations with ADMT and several with third party
> tools like NetIQ, bindview, Aelita and others. The tools give some
> functionality that you need to work around in admt. Many of the tools will
> schedule and bundle processes that are manual in ADMT. Given that, ADMT
does
> a fairly good job, and I've migrated up to 6000 users (including Exchange
> 5.5) with native MS tools.
>
> The bottom line comes down to this, "whats your budget", the 3rd party
tools
> can be a bit pricey, "what's your time frame", the tools can speed things
> along a little, and "whats you level of expertise", the tool can be a
little
> more user friendly.
>
> My opinion, if you have a smaller environment, say less than 6000 users,
and
> you have time to test and research, use ADMT. If you have a larger
> environment and have time constrants, start looking onto 3rd party tools.
> There are a bunch out there.
>
> --
> Hope it helps...........
>
> dw
>
> Don Wilwol
> Blog - http://spaces.msn.com/members/wilwol/
> Web - http://capital.net/~wilwol/dw.htm
> DonWilwol(REMOVE)@yahoo.com
>
> "Chandlar" <Chandlar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C554839D-04E3-473D-BE73-752E5DDCAEAB@microsoft.com...
> > I'm in the Process of doing my second NT 4.0 to Win2kx migration. The
> > first
> > one was for about 6000 users and 300 Servers and we used the Quest
Suite.
> > It
> > involved significant Server consolidation. The capabilities of the third
> > part
> > software when it comes to consolidation over the native tools made it
> > worth
> > the $$$. Particularly on the Client Workstation side. The Profile and
> > ACL
> > migration was a smooth as silk .On the Server Consolidation side the
third
> > part software provided very good tools, again on the Client profile side
> > (persistant drive, printer mapping reconfiguration etc) , however it
was
> > very pricy.
> >
> >
> > Now I must admit I haven't spent a lot of time looking into the current
> > Version of ADMT but the the third party tools do add value. They have
> > to.
> > I think the real driver is a couple of things.
> >
> > 1) are you doing a Pristine Win2Kx migration or an upgrade in place ?
If
> > you doing an upgrade in place then many of the issues addressed by the
> > third
> > party folks aren't an issue.
> > 2) are you doing server consolidation? If you are are you implementing
A
> > DFS Root structure. If you are doing a straight forward Server
> > consolidation
> > without implementing A DFS root structure the third party tools can earn
> > there keep.
> > 3) What's your scheudle and resourcing like. If you have little time ad
> > resources then thge tools can offer some advantages.
> >
> >
> > My 2 cents .
> >
> >
> >
> > Chandlar Pigeon
> >
> >
> >
> > "Frances [MSFT]" wrote:
> >
> >> Hello OJ,
> >>
> >> I understand you want to compare ADMT with other migration tools. I
> >> suggest
> >> that you search in google to get more useful information. You may also
> >> wait
> >> for other MVPs to share peer experience and recommendations.
> >>
> >> For your convenience, I find the following links for you. You may have
a
> >> check:
> >>
> >> Quest Domain Migration Wizard
> >> http://wm.quest.com/products/domainmigrationwizard/
> >>
> >> The Hurwitz Group Benchmark on Mission Critical Software's one point
> >> http://www.adtmag.com/article.asp?id=2708
> >>
> >> This response contains a reference to a third-party World Wide Web
site.
> >> Microsoft is providing this information as a convenience to you.
> >> Microsoft
> >> does not control these sites and has not tested any software or
> >> information
> >> found on these sites; therefore, Microsoft cannot make any
> >> representations
> >> regarding the quality, safety, or suitability of any software or
> >> information found there. There are inherent dangers in the use of any
> >> software found on the Internet, and Microsoft cautions you to make sure
> >> that you completely understand the risk before retrieving any software
> >> from
> >> the Internet.
> >>
> >> If you have any other questions, don't hesitate to get in touch!
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Frances He
> >>
> >>
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