RE: HP LJ Printers.
From: Rebecca Chen [MSFT] (v-rebc_at_online.microsoft.com)
Date: 10/26/04
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:31:03 GMT
Hi Curt,
I am glad to know that the printer works if you manually install it. We can
share the network printers in two ways:
1. Attach the printer to the win2k/win2k3 server and install the drivers,
you can install the network printer via \\servername\printer on the client
side. We call win2k/win2k3 server the printer server.
2. Use a dedicated printer server->Hardware printer server, just like you
have used HP printer server. Every printer has its own IP address and we
install this printer by using the port as you have used.
3. Use both software printer server and hardware printer server.
>Cf: Then let me go one step further - is there any need >what-so-ever to
even have a print server?
>If all mycomputers are not "really" printing to the >print-server
butdirectly through the network to the printer, >the "Role" of print server
is superfluous?
Although the printer server is not necessary, printer server will allow the
network printer easy to manage. For example, on win2k server, you can
install the network printer first, on the client side, you only need to
visit the win2k server to install the printer. You can also assign the
permission to the each printer to grant who can print the documents and who
can manage the documents.
You may take a look at the following link:
Print Services
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/technologies/fileandprint/print/d
efault.mspx
I believe you can reinstall the printers on your win2k3 server, and assign
the script to let the client install the printer automatically:
How to Add Printers with No User Interaction in Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;189105
HOW TO: Programmatically Create a Printer and Printer Port by Using
PrinterAdmin (Prnadmin.dll) with a Visual Basic Script in Microsoft Windows
2000
<http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321025>
HTH!
Best regards,
Rebecca Chen
MCSE2000 MCDBA CCNA
Microsoft Online Partner Support
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>Part of me always asks why simple problems end up being obtuse......
>
>HI! I'm still working along on this. You asked:
>(My responses start with cf:)
>
>"Rebecca Chen [MSFT]" wrote:
>
>> What is the meaning of " THE OLD PRINTER WHICH POINTS TO THE OLD
SERVER"?
>cf: Ok, I'm sitting at my workstation. When I clicked on "Printers and
>Faxes", Up popped a list of my printers; one of which being "Admin HP 2200
on
>EEHQ-F001"
>That is "the old printer which points to the old server" Physically box
down
>the hall that spits out paper is the same age as the "new printer" (but
that
>is a street we need not go down.) That "printer"/printer queue/printer
>driver/whatever you want to call it works. The "Admin HP 2200 on
EEHQ-F002"
>printer says "offline"
>
>> What is the IP address of this printer?
>cf: Are we assuming that this is always fixed? I can look out and see
where
>DHCP set it this week. I don't think that is the issue.
>
>> What is the IP address assigned to
>> other 3 problematic printers, you can see them via the LCD on the
printers?
>> Can you ping thought the problematic printer on the new win2k3 server?
>cf: I can print to the problematic printer from f002 as long as I print it
>through the F001 printserver.
>
>>
>> Please use the following steps to isolate this issue:
>>
>> Step1:
>> ==========
>> Please check the following KB to add the cname recorder in DNS server:
>>
>> How to consolidate print servers by using DNS Alias (CNAME) records in
>> Windows Server 2003 and in Windows 2000 Server
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=870911
>
>cf: After working some time on this I must admit total ignorance. I assume
>it is like what I see on my old HP4000's where I see HPLJ4000Room301 on my
>DNS list - I can see one for the newer HP4050, but certainly none for the
>HP2200s...lets continue to the next step, which sounds like the "just
start
>from scratch and not worry about it" fix....
>>
>> Step 2:
>> =========
>> Please delete the one problematic printer on your win2k3 server and use
the
>> add printer wizard to add this network printer. Please refer to the
>> following link:
>>
>>
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/using/productdoc/en/default.asp?url=
>> /WINDOWSXP/home/using/productdoc/en/sag_setup_direct_printer.asp
>>
>cf: Going through this process I'm still astounded that my printer, that
is
>not attached to anything, and is physically down the hall, is a "local
>printer" - (My Minolta Photocopier is like this too) But as I think about
it
>I would guess the definition of a "network printer" is a printer already
>attached to another computer/server and this one is unattached . . .
Anyway,
>The next step goes down to the place where I get to choose "Select a
printer
>port". Now to put in TCP/IP Port 10.xx.xx.45 is old fashioned/everything
has
>a fixed IP address way of doing it. Yes it would work, but that is not
the
>"correct" way to do it. It should be like it was on the old server
>"HPStandard IP Port". Create a new port give me choice between local and
IP -
>I am forced take standard. Forcing my Printer to spit out a selftest
>configuration and a "jetdirect" pate, I learn the host name is NPIe2d64b.
>(Ahah! I see those on the DNS) I try that and wow - this time it
works.... I
>look though and see that this doesn't match the old "HPStandard IP Port"
but
>if those are the same....then I can work this way.
>
>cf: So my conclusion is that whatever migration tool used for the "port"
did
>not get migrated over to the new printserver. Thus it was "offline".
>Cf: Then let me go one step further - is there any need what-so-ever to
even
>have a print server? If all my computers are not "really" printing to the
>print-server but directly through the network to the printer, the "Role"
of
>print server is superfluous?
>
>
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