Re: Upgrading from Windows 2000 to Windows 2003

From: Jeff Qiu [MSFT] (jefffqiu_at_online.microsoft.com)
Date: 06/04/04


Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 12:22:06 GMT

Hi GOODFELLA,

Would you please using ADSIEDIT.msc to check the objectversion value on the
other server that did not get the ForestUpgrade Container replicated?

It should be 30 if it is done after adprep /forestprep for Windows Server
2003.

Best Regards,

Jeff Qiu
Microsoft Online Partner Support
MCSE 2k/2k3, MCSA 2k/2k3, MCDBA
Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
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>From: goodfella749@yahoo.com (GOODFELLA)
>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.migration
>Subject: Re: Upgrading from Windows 2000 to Windows 2003
>Date: 3 Jun 2004 12:08:54 -0700
>Organization: http://groups.google.com
>microsoft.public.windows.server.migration
>
>Hey Jeff...
>
>What I mean is that when I check for replication traffic using ReplMon
>and even force a full replication using Repadmin, the replication is
>successful according to these tools. However, when I use ADSIEdit to
>verify that the containers created by ForestPrep have replicated over,
>it doesn't show that it has replicated to the other domain controller.
> When I attempt to run DomainPrep on the second DC, a message tells me
>that either ForestPrep needs to be run first on the Schema Master or
>replication has to complete. I'm at a total loss as to why these
>servers are behaving this way.
>
>GOODFELLA
>
>
>
>jefffqiu@online.microsoft.com ("Jeff Qiu [MSFT]") wrote in message
news:<x9hrZ0VSEHA.3996@cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>...
>> Hi GOODFELLA,
>>
>> Thank you for your update.
>>
>> From my test environment, the container under Configuration should be
named
>> ForestUpgrade not ForestPrep. I am not sure where does your container
>> comes from. Please confirm this first.
>>
>> At the same time, what do you mean the ReplMon and Repadmin and both
show
>> that its working fine while the ForestPrep contains still not replicated?
>>
>> I am standing by for your response.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Jeff Qiu
>> Microsoft Online Partner Support
>> MCSE 2k/2k3, MCSA 2k/2k3, MCDBA
>> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>> This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no
rights.
>>
>> --------------------
>> >
>> >Thanks for your reply, Jeff!
>> >
>> >I tried to force replication to the other domain controller in the
>> >forest root domain and it was successful. However, the only thing
>> >that didn't get replicated was the ForestPrep containers. I'm not
>> >sure why this is the case.
>> >
>> >My guess is that there is a Spanning Tree alogorithm that's trying to
>> >recreate the replication ring because the domain controllers could not
>> >find the "missing" third domain controller. Either that or it seems
>> >that there needs to be a "confirmation" from the "missing" domain
>> >controller before replicating it to all the domain controllers. It
>> >seems like a long shot but I'm not sure why it would replicate fine
>> >except for the ForestPrep modifications.
>> >
>> >I've tested replication in full with ReplMon and Repadmin and both
>> >show that its working fine.
>> >
>> >Also, is there a way of completely removing references to the domain
>> >controller I removed using ADSIEdit, etc.? I'm asking because when I
>> >run diagnostics on the other two domain controllers, they're still
>> >referencing the third DC.
>> >
>> >GOODFELLA
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >jefffqiu@online.microsoft.com ("Jeff Qiu [MSFT]") wrote in message
>> news:<TgaOYZJSEHA.3744@cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>...
>> >> Hi GOODFELLA,
>> >>
>> >> Thank you for your update.
>> >>
>> >> To the first question:
>> >> Yes, the Operations Container is supposed to be there. It is used to
>> store
>> >> some configuration operations.
>> >>
>> >> To the second question:
>> >> I suggest you force a replication by repadmin command line below:
>> >>
>> >> repadmin /replicate Destination_DC_LIST Source_DC_NAME /force /full
>> >>
>> >> Check if the ForestUpgrade Container is replicated this time.
>> >>
>> >> From my test environment, it is replicated correctly.
>> >>
>> >> Hope it helps!
>> >>
>> >> Best Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Jeff Qiu
>> >> Microsoft Online Partner Support
>> >> MCSE 2k/2k3, MCSA 2k/2k3, MCDBA
>> >> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>> >> This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no
>> rights.
>> >>
>> >> --------------------
>> >> >From: goodfella749@yahoo.com (GOODFELLA)
>> >> >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.migration
>> >> >Subject: Re: Upgrading from Windows 2000 to Windows 2003
>> >> >Date: 1 Jun 2004 12:33:46 -0700
>> >> >microsoft.public.windows.server.migration
>> >> >
>> >> >Thanks for your reply Jeff!
>> >> >
>> >> >Here is an update to my last posted comment.
>> >> >
>> >> >We rebuilt the lab environment from tape backup of our production
>> >> >environment. In our forest root we have three domain controllers in
>> >> >production, however, in our lab environment, we built only two domain
>> >> >controllers. Using ADSIEdit and other tools, we removed the third
>> >> >domain controller from Active Directory. After waiting for
>> >> >replication to take place so that the other domain controller has the
>> >> >updated AD information, we ran ForestPrep on the Schema Operations
>> >> >master in the root domain. Using ADSIEdit, we were able to verify
>> >> >that the CN=ForestUpdates, CN=Windows2003Update containers have been
>> >> >created under the CN=Configuration container. However, there is also
>> >> >an additional folder that was created named CN=Operations which has
37
>> >> >containers (named CN={numbers and letters}) at the same level as the
>> >> >CN=Windows2003Update container. I'm not sure if this is supposed to
>> >> >be created and whether or not this is in part causing some problems
>> >> >for us in our lab. Also, we're having replication problems so that
>> >> >our other domain controller is not receiving the ForestPrep updates.
>> >> >We've check replication and it seems to work fine. We've even
>> >> >manually re-created the replication ring between the two domain
>> >> >controllers. We tested this by created "bogus" containers using
>> >> >ADSIEdit to see if it would replicate over, and its been successful,
>> >> >but the ForestPrep containers won't replicate.
>> >> >
>> >> >I've also checked the Event Logs and ADPrep logs and both show no
>> >> >unusual errors or warnings with the domain controllers or ForestPrep.
>> >> >
>> >> >Questions:
>> >> >
>> >> >1. Is the CN=Operations container (and its sub-containers) supposed
>> >> >to be created with ForestPrep? If not, do you know how or why this
>> >> >container was created after running ForestPrep?
>> >> >
>> >> >2. What could cause the ForestPrep containers to NOT replicate to
the
>> >> >other domain controller? Replication seems to be working fine with
>> >> >other objects. How can we resolve or troubleshoot this issue? We've
>> >> >verified replication with ReplMon and Repadmin and both tools show
>> >> >successful replication with other objects. Could this be caused by
>> >> >the Spanning Tree algorithm trying to rebuild the replication ring
and
>> >> >just needs time to complete?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Much gratitude in advance for your insights!!
>> >> >
>> >> >GOODFELLA
>> >> >
>> >
>



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