RE: migrating to w2k3 from nt4...yet another question

From: Joe Wu [MSFT] (joewu_at_online.microsoft.com)
Date: 03/17/04


Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 11:48:51 GMT

Hello Mat,

Thank you for your update.

We do not need to build a separate domain in this situation and I think we
can still perform an upgrade installation.

The most convenient upgrade solution is to install Windows NT BDC on the
new server, promote it to PDC and then inplace-upgrade it to Windows Server
2003. (Actually, this is commonly used method because the domain can be
intact and it is easy for us to recovery the domain. Also, the
inplace-upgrade from a cleanly installed Windows NT system is easier to
succeed.)

Here are commonly-used upgrade steps for this situation:

1. Perform full backup for the currant PDC.

2. Build Windows NT BDC on the new server and apply the latest service pack
(SP6a).

3. Promote this new BDC to PDC (the original PDC will be demoted to BDC
automatically).

4. Take the old PDC (now BDC) offline for recovery purposes (if necessary,
we can take it online and promote it back to PDC).

5. Inplace upgrade the new PDC to Windows Server 2003 and promote it to a
DC.

Reference:

Upgrading from Windows NT Server 4.0 to Windows Server 2003
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/whyupgrade/nt4/nt4tows
03-2.mspx

Windows NT Server 4.0 Upgrade Guide
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/partners/isvs/ntmigrate.mspx

326209 HOW TO: Upgrade a Windows NT 4.0-Based PDC to a Windows Server 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=326209

This will keep all the domain data in the existing domain and the client
use can still logon to the same domain.

Thanks!

Regards,
Joe Wu
Product Support Services
Microsoft Corporation

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|Hi there :)
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|Thanks for your quick reply. Here are the answers:
|
|1. There is only 1 pure NT4 domain
|
|2. The domain structure is working well, so it will not
|be changed.
|
|3. The only problem with an upgrade, is that the current
|PDC which is being replaced does not meet the hardware
|requirements for an upgrade, which is why we are looking
|at a migration. But if you have any more ideas, that
|would be great! And thanks for those articles, they will
|be very handy ;)
|
|Mat
|>-----Original Message-----
|>Hello Mat,
|>
|>Thank you for your post.
|>
|>May I know the following?
|>
|>1. How many domains are there now? (Is it A "pure NT
|domain", or two
|>domains as there are "two NT 4 PDCs"?)
|>
|>2. Is he satisfied with the current domain structure?
|>
|>If there is only one domain and he do not need to
|restructure the domain at
|>this time, I think an upgrade is better than migration.
|So we do not need
|>to run ADMT in this situation.
|>
|>I hope the following references are helpful:
|>
|>Restructuring Windows NT 4.0 Domains to an Active
|Directory Forest
|>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?
|url=/technet/prodtechn
|>ol/windowsserver2003/proddocs/deployguide/dssbh_rera_usbf
|.asp
|>
|>Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Deployment Kit
|>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?
|url=/technet/prodtechn
|>ol/windowsserver2003/proddocs/deployguide/default.asp
|>
|>Migrating Windows NT Server 4.0 Domains to Windows
|Server 2003 Active
|>Directory
|>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/why
|upgrade/nt4/nt4domt
|>oad.mspx
|>
|>Upgrading from Windows NT Server 4.0 to Windows Server
|2003
|>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/why
|upgrade/nt4/nt4tows
|>03-2.mspx
|>
|>Windows NT Server 4.0 Upgrade Guide
|>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/partners/isvs/
|ntmigrate.mspx
|>
|>326209 HOW TO: Upgrade a Windows NT 4.0-Based PDC to a
|Windows Server 2003
|>http://support.microsoft.com/?id=326209
|>
|>Thanks!
|>
|>Regards,
|>Joe Wu
|>Product Support Services
|>Microsoft Corporation
|>
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|>|Hello all!
|>
|>My client has a pure NT4 domain, but the PDC in the main
|office needs to be
|>replaced, so we figured this would be the time to go to
|w2k3. Here is the
|>setup:
|>
|>2 NT 4 PDC's (one in the main office, and the other in a
|brach office
|>connected thru VPN)
|>1 NT 4 member server.
|>
|>We are wondering what the easiest way is to transition
|to W2K3, but in our
|>reading of upgrade information, we haven't been able to
|figure out the best
|>method for our situation. Is the ADMT as easy to use as
|the articles say,
|>or is there a few well known gotcha's ?
|>
|>Any information relating to this would be greatly
|appreciated 8)
|>
|>Mat
|>|
|>
|>.
|>
|



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