Re: Windows Server Backup - External USB NTFS Corruption Issue

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"mcintoshs" <mcintoshs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:B61D2FED-29FD-45BE-9AA9-4914C61C9A34@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Surprising you got no replies. No, I have to tricks. It's either someone knows an answer or suggestion, or no one doesn't and won't reply.

My suggestions still stand. :-)

Other than that, I am fresh out of ideas.

Ace


Hi Ace,

So far I've gotten zero, zip, nada for responses:

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsbackup/thread/6f31dd04-10df-4ac4-8051-bfdb37ade838

Know any tricks to elicit responses?

"Ace Fekay [MCT]" wrote:

"mcintoshs" <mcintoshs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:610FA54A-724C-428E-ABF3-62E80FCDF435@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

You are welcome. I would be curious of what the other folks say. Please keep
us informed over here, as to the results of their findings.

Thanks,
Ace

> Ace,
> I've cross-posted as you suggested. Thanks
> Scott
>
> "Ace Fekay [MCT]" wrote:
>
>> "mcintoshs" <mcintoshs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:9C3286BF-D6DF-4A33-8762-B97F807DB05B@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Scott,
>>
>> I really don't know if this will work or not. I have not used the >> Iomega
>> products, so I can't specifically say or not. Looking at the specs, or
>> any
>> specs of any USB for that matter, usually don't indicate whether a >> device
>> will work or not. It could be something with the way the manufacturer
>> designed it internally, or something with the hard drive itself that
>> they're
>> using. Manufacturers purchase drives from other companies and put them >> in
>> their own devices. I don't know if Iomega does this or not.
>>
>> What I can suggest is to not use a USB hub and directly plug it into a
>> USB
>> port.
>>
>> Only other thing I can suggest is to purchase a different name brand >> USB
>> drive and see what happens.
>>
>> Other than that, it is difficult to ascertain where the problem lies, >> and
>> possibly posting to the moderated forums, as previously suggested, may >> be
>> your better bet. I mean I and others reading the thread here, may be
>> missing
>> something or not catch something, where you may have better exposure >> with
>> the MIcrosoft engineers at the other forum.
>>
>> Ace
>>
>>
>> > Here are the specs on the 1 TB Iomega 'MiniMax' USB drive:
>> >
>> > Tech Specs
>> > System Requirements
>> > Three-port USB hub
>> > Preformatted in HFS+
>> > Interactive cooling system with thermal probe automatically >> > regulates
>> > fan
>> > speed
>> > Compatible with PC and Mac®
>> > Transfer rates of 480 Mbits/s when connected to a USB 2.0 >> > controller;
>> > 400
>> > Mbits when connected to a FireWire 400 controller
>> > Rotational speed of 7200 RPM
>> > Memory cache of 8MB
>> >
>> > "Ace Fekay [MCT]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> "mcintoshs" <mcintoshs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:544AA8C6-20EC-412A-8B37-3DA617E5E7C9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>
>> >> Scott,
>> >>
>> >> I don't know if you've tried a different USB drive, or even a
>> >> different
>> >> USB
>> >> port, but I can tell you from experience, that I've seen issues >> >> with
>> >> one
>> >> brand or other of USB drives that simply don't work right. I don't
>> >> know
>> >> why.
>> >> I don't even remember the brand name. I know I am using a Seagate
>> >> Freedom
>> >> 1.5 TB with one customer without any problems. So it is hard to >> >> tell
>> >> without
>> >> knowing specifics regarding brand, motherboard, all that good >> >> stuff.
>> >>
>> >> You can post to the Social Technet forums, where are moderated by
>> >> Microsoft.
>> >> The following link is to the General forum.
>> >> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winservergen/threads
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -- >> >> Ace
>> >>
>> >> This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees >> >> and
>> >> confers no rights.
>> >>
>> >> Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration >> >> benefit
>> >> among
>> >> responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your >> >> resolution.
>> >>
>> >> Ace Fekay, MCT, MCTS Exchange, MCSE, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSA >> >> Messaging
>> >> Microsoft Certified Trainer
>> >>
>> >> For urgent issues, please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please >> >> check
>> >> http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Tim,
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for the comments. I understand how frustrating this can >> >> > be.
>> >> > In our situation, the server closets are air-conditioned...the
>> >> > ambient
>> >> > room
>> >> > temperature is 68 degrees F. The USB external drive is on a >> >> > shelf
>> >> > with
>> >> > free
>> >> > air flow.
>> >> > I'm hoping a moderator can assist because this seems to be an >> >> > issue
>> >> > with
>> >> > the
>> >> > interaction between the operating system and Windows Server >> >> > Backup
>> >> > w/
>> >> > USB.
>> >> > Scott
>> >> >
>> >> > "Tim Judd" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> mcintoshs wrote:
>> >> >> > I'm running nightly Windows Server Backups with the Hyper-V
>> >> >> > application
>> >> >> > awareness registry modification every night at midnight on 8
>> >> >> > remote
>> >> >> > location
>> >> >> > Server 2008 SP2 Hyper-V servers running 4 VM's each. The VM's >> >> >> > are
>> >> >> > 1)
>> >> >> > File/Print & DHCP 2) AD DC 3) Security server running Sophos
>> >> >> > endpoint
>> >> >> > security and WSUS. One morning users were complaining about >> >> >> > being
>> >> >> > unable to
>> >> >> > print, so I attempted to logon to the host server but
>> >> >> > CTRL-ALT-DEL
>> >> >> > would not
>> >> >> > generate a logon prompt. I had to regrettably hard power reset
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > server.
>> >> >> > There were 26 consecurtive errors in the System Evt Log on the
>> >> >> > host
>> >> >> > server
>> >> >> > over the course of 2 minutes shortly after the scheduled >> >> >> > Windows
>> >> >> > Server
>> >> >> > Backup occurred: NTFS evt id 55: The file system structure on >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > disk
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > corrupt and unusable. Please run the chkdsk utility on the >> >> >> > volume
>> >> >> > .
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I had to delete and recreate the Windows Server Backup job
>> >> >> > thereby
>> >> >> > reformatting the USB external drive and things were back to
>> >> >> > normal.
>> >> >> > But
>> >> >> > I am
>> >> >> > looking for a fix so that if such an event occurs again, it
>> >> >> > doesn't
>> >> >> > cause the
>> >> >> > host server to be totally non-responsive and require power
>> >> >> > recycling
>> >> >> > during
>> >> >> > production hours. Note, it was not the host server
>> >> >> > direct-attached-storage
>> >> >> > which had somehow become corrupted...it was the external USB
>> >> >> > drive.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Not sure if this is applicable to your situation or not, here's
>> >> >> what
>> >> >> we're doing over here and it is causing lots of money in >> >> >> warranty
>> >> >> work
>> >> >> and service calls:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We install video systems, and when the time comes to archive the
>> >> >> live
>> >> >> video to disk (2x daily, or more), it causes the external usb
>> >> >> drives,
>> >> >> 2
>> >> >> physical drives in 1 enclosure in RAID0, causes one drive to
>> >> >> overheat
>> >> >> the other drive, causing both failure.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If either the controller board on the usb drive and/or one of >> >> >> the
>> >> >> drives
>> >> >> fail in the enclosure, windows will WAIT (what seems like >> >> >> forever,
>> >> >> sometimes it is) for a response on that USB connection. I had >> >> >> to
>> >> >> kill
>> >> >> two USB enclosure-drives this morning because of failure. I am
>> >> >> having
>> >> >> the drives sent to me and I'll look into them.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> But cables (USB and power), controller board, and physical >> >> >> drives
>> >> >> are
>> >> >> failing because of the enclosure construction. Not enough >> >> >> cooling,
>> >> >> working too hard.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I would wonder if a hard drive stopped working due to overheat,
>> >> >> causing
>> >> >> FS or component destruction.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I hope you're not having this problem too. Doesn't seem there >> >> >> are
>> >> >> any
>> >> >> reasonably costed usb drives that can be put through EVERY >> >> >> single
>> >> >> task
>> >> >> with no problems. The ones that do seem to maybe work would >> >> >> cost
>> >> >> 500-600 each.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --Tim
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -- >> >> >> This posting is provided for you, from a fellow community >> >> >> member.
>> >> >> Use
>> >> >> at your own risk.
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>





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