Re: WEb site question

Kim K <Kim K@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Off the domain does refer to these particular workstations, They were
fine on their current setup in the business for several weeks prior
to joining them to the domain.

Ah. Meaning *before* this change they worked. Not that you have computers on
that LAN that do not belong to the domain and which do work. Your
description/terminology is a bit unclear - you just mean "it worked before."
:-)


Yes I have several emails to them to take some more screen shots,

I suggest that you not leave this in their hands. You need to get access to
the machines yourself, ideally in a shared remote support/assistance
session. Anything else will be pretty inefficient.

give me error reports nad just generally let me knowwhen I can access
their machines. Problem is I also have a day job, and I am getting
very little done.

If they want this fixed they either need to cooperate with you and work on
*your* schedule or they need a tech who is available when *they* need help.
If this is a side job you are trying to do only after hours, you may find it
isn't a viable option.



"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:

Kim K <KimK@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
No I am so sorry I had not read your message, so let me see I I can
add some info tha tmight be insightful.

I can post an ipconfig /all for the server right now, but none of
the workstations are on today and unfortunately I am requested to
fix it today but can't if the workstations are not on, go figure,
(I should wave my little magic wand perhaps? sorry I am so
sarcastic due to frustrations)

I understand. Your users need to be trained *not* to shut their
workstations off at night. Just log out (or reboot). The machines
should be left on for WSUS updates/antivirus scanning/whatnot. It
isn't very green, but unless you have Wake On LAN it's a necessity.

I agree with Intel and not broadcom, but again not at the the server
and no keys to get in to test.....

Understood.

As far as the website, the workstations were working fine for 3
weeks PRIOR to the install of the server, once on the domain the
website cannot be seen properly, all objects pictures
(Flash/shockwave) are not there, no red x nothing, the one link
button for "Go To Meeting" is centered (instead of left unde rthe
menu navigation) and the navigatin menu is strictly blue links and
text, the site should show a blue menu box around the links wiht
shockwave, flash pictures that expland when clicked on as a link to
another page. Basically, off the domain it works on the domain it
does not.

But "off the domain" doesn't refer to these specific computers,
right?

You won't be able to do anything about this until you can get to a
workstation and do some testing, so might's well try and enjoy
what's left of the weekend.

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:

Kim K <KimK@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Isaac,

I have been struglging with the freeaing/DFS issue sine installing
the server a week ago. Dell has webexed into the server every day
to try sometihng new. The only thing that is corrected and I
think was due to your suggestin, was the shares being set up
wrong or some odd thing. I know they were set up right initially
but then believe that once the freezing occurred, and Dell made
some setting chagnes to correct the DFS issue, then the shares
went nuts. After I followed your suggestin the DFS issue
resolved itself (YEA!) but let me tell you some oddities.

The server boots int he AM, runs fine for about 3-4 hours, shares
are accessible, internet, email (pop3) and things just move along
fine. About 3-4 hours later things come to a screeching halt.
When A user tries to access my computer to get to C drive or the
shares, the dialog box opens but nothing appears and the computer
appears to be trying to access the shares. At this point the
computer is totally unresponsive (client PC). Cutting the power
is the only option. These are XP SP3 new boxes. When the user
reboots it takes them up to 16 minutes from the time they enter
in the domain PW to access the Desktop,

Try posting an unedited ipconfig /all from both your server & from
one of the workstations.,

and things are a repeat of freezing. If I reboot the
server, then things go bakc to normal for a few hours.

Dell has come across a MS KB article about the broadcom network
adapter adn disabled a few things, and when we remoted into the
clients all just zinged along until 1245 when it all came crashing
down. I check the event logs and nothing is apparent, not even a
warning.

I'd try swapping out the NIC. I'm not a big fan of Broadcom. I'd
try Intel.

I have ceated conditional forwards to OPenDNS, because the users
were spending time on myspace, youtube, facebook chat etc.
However I disabled this to test and tha tis not a problem in the
least. I disabled Windows updates for now and will run manually,
as well as Norton defs. Unfortunately I saw in the OPen DNS log
that there were 75 hits alone for updates yesterday ont he server
alone. Disable that puppy and will run manually as well.

My other issue as you read, the web site. It "appears" to be
flash related but the users do not get the option or the notice
to install flash. I have not created any GPO or anything that
would prevent that, all IE settings in the GPO are at the default
not configured. I feel it is one of three things, OpenDNS (tested
adn proved to be not the issue) Flash (not entireley sure this is
the issue) or some GPO someplace preventing this, but I have no
idea where to look.

Did you see my suggestion to add one of the users to the local
admin group to see if this is indeed a permissions issue, and to
see whether they are then prompted for the control?
Before you do this, you could test by having them visit Adobe.com
to see whether you can see the flash content.

I am remoted into the server today, but no clients are on so
testing to a user box is not an issue.

Can't you just create a limited user account and log into a
workstation via RDP from the server?

If you would like to communicate over
email - I can send you screen shots of what it should be and what
it is that I am seeing as far as the website, and if you have any
ideas of what is causing the freezing of the shares as described
above I would gladly try just about anything at this point.

"Isaac Oben [MCITP:EA, MCSE]" wrote:

Hello Kim,

You may need to install flash player in one of the workstations
or which ever way you choose to, then test and make sure that it
works, that way you are 100% sure that issue is flash
installation related, then you can deploy on all worksations. If
that does't work then now you can start looking for maybe there
is a policy preventing flash to display.

Also, to note that, if you decide to deploy flash via gpo, you
will need to request a .msi install distribution file from
manufacturer
http://www.adobe.com/products/players/fpsh_distribution1.html

Once you recieve the file, then you can create a gpo to publish
the application.

Also, just curious, did you find a solution for the
"DFS/Freezing/shared drives" posting?

Isaac


"Kim K" <KimK@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I do not mind they install this themselves, currently there is
nothing set in
the IE policies - these are all not configured.

I Need to know pleae where I set that setting to enable them to
get these controls and if by default there is a local policy
already set somplase that
would prohibit their website from showing the website?

I have witnessed this myself (by RD) - their site was built with
Flash and all computers on the domain cannot view the site
correctly, but computers that are not on the domain can. I
think there are only 2 answers here, 1. they need to install
teh flash in their browser or 2. there is some GPO restricting
this.

Any ideas?

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:

Kim K <KimK@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I installed a new 08 server this past week in an office, that
the employees now say they cannot eaccess their website, which
was made with flash.

Have you witnessed this yourself?

I am assuming that since they were joined to the domain they
have not installed the flash or other java controls for their
user profile.

That's possible, but seems unlikely as it's not a per-user
thing. It can be
a per *browser* thing, though. I suggest you check this out
yourself to see
what the symptoms actually are.

However, is there a GPO that I can set to allow for downloads
and install of flash and such so that I do not have to touch
all their machines?

No, you need to install it yourself or the users have to have
sufficient privileges to do it themselves.

Thanks in advance.



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