Re: Licensing Issues
- From: "Juan Perez" <pgjuan3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 08:27:14 -0000
You are right. If the Office 2003 are OEM version, they are attached to the
original server, where they were installed at first time.
If you plan to get a Office 2003 throught E-Bay, be careful. A big amount of
the offers are pirate copies not even with a original media. I do not know
if there is any chance you can a "second hand" copy with 5-10 licenses.
I found something interesting regarding a possible option to downgrade your
volume Office 2007 licenses:
Which 2007 Microsoft Office system suites are eligible to downgrade to
Office 2003 suites?
Customers who have licensed Microsoft Office Professional Plus 2007 are
eligible to downgrade to Office Professional Enterprise 2003 and all
previous versions as described above. Customers who have licensed Microsoft
Office Standard 2007 are eligible to downgrade to Office Standard Edition
2003 and all previous versions of Office Standard Edition.
Maybe you should check that with MS Australia.
Please, keep us post.Thanks.
"Steve" <stevecox4444@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
On Jan 16, 8:05 pm, "Juan Perez" <pgju...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In my humble opinion you are doing right. Getting new licenses for windows
2003 server for your new server. But there is two things that I do not
1- Why you want to install Office 2003 in a server?
2- Which reason have given to you by the installer to get a new license of
Office 2003 and not just one, but 5-10 new copies? As far as I understand,
you can still use your your media and you actual key, to install it. Which
kind of licensising do you have for Office 2003?
"Steve" <stevecox4...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
This is the history on this debacle:
* We have an existing server that we are concerned may be on its last
* Rather than waiting for it to die, we are pre-emptively attempting
to recreate exactly what we currently have as far as software (both
Windows and Applications) goes but on a different machine.
* Once this is done and has proved stable, we will wipe the old server
and use it as a backup. We have been told that this is permitted under
the Microsoft licensing as long as it is a fall back position only and
not being used to "cheat" and create two servers. That is all we are
trying to do
* The server we are pre-emptively replacing had Windows server 2003
and Microsoft Office 2003 on it as well as other unrelated software
* As part of the attempt to replicate the server, we became aware that
there was a chance that, through no fault or action on our part nor
with our knowledge, the copy of Windows Server 2003 may have been
* To ensure that we end up with what we thought we already had, we
have purchased a (what to us is an additional) copy of Server 2003,
agenuine attempt to get leagel even though we didnt know we weren't
* This has been installed
* We now wish to install the same functionality for Office 2003, which
has always been a legal copy.
* Microsoft have changed their licensing rules for Office 2007.
* Despite the fact that we have numerous licenses for Office 2007, we
are prepared to stick with Office 2003 as that is the system we are
trying to replicate.
* We are being told by our installer that we need to buy 5-10
copies of Office and cannot use our existing copy (potential cost $4k
* If our hard drive had already died, we would have be able to re-
install exactly what we had (albeit with paying for an additional copy
of server 2003 because of past transgressions by a technician).
* Why cannot we do this now given this is a pre-emptive install before
the hard drive dies and no attempt to end up with any more than we had
Bit long and boring but certaily very frustrating. I just want what I
had and am prepared to pay to make the Server 2003 legal (even though
I wasnt aware it was illegal in the first place)
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Why run ofice on server
The server is located 3,000 miles away and I need to run a large
database that interrogates our accounting system from both here and
sometimes other countries. Doing this via Terminal Server has worked
wonderfully for the last 5 years. (we used to have Server 2000, a
legal copy and when an outside technician on site upgraded it to 2003,
he apparently used an illegal copy)
Why 5-10 copies.
Whilst we have had a number of copies of Office 2003, through bad
filing, the only one that can be found is an OEM version. The
installer tells me he cannot install OEM versions even though I am
buying a new computer from him for this.
I have 12 OEM licenses for Office 2007. The installer tells me this
version of Office 2007 cannot be installed on a server and I must buy
a volume license (min 5 users, and possible one copy for each user (10
people, irrespective of if they actually use it or not) to install
this, @ almost $800 per license.
When I suggested he just re-install 2003 he claimed that that would
breach his cerification requirements with Microsoft and to remain
certified, he was obliged to report this to Microsoft.
There are no new copies of Office 2003 available in Australia (while I
obviously havent checked every shop, my checking was very thorough).
I am now trying to buy a copy from eBay and hoping I can get a legal
one, the installer will co-operate and I can get it in a reasonable
period of time. We had a small window to do this install so I am
fairly annoyed this BS has come up at the last minute
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