Re: 2003 Enteprise SP2 or 2003 Enteprise R2

Hi Danny,

Perfect. You are truly a gentleman and a scholar <grin> Thank you so much
for taking the time to answer all of my questions.
--
Regards,

Andy


"Danny Sanders" wrote:

I already upgraded some of the W2K3 SP1 servers to SP2. I am wondering if
I
could still run setup from disk#2 or the R2 and get the same result?


If you run setup from disk 2 of the R2 set it will install this:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsserver/evaluate/benefits.mspx


If you install SP 2 you are installing this:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/914962
and this:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsserver/sp2/security-bulletins.mspx

If you look through those 3 links you will see the R2 stuff has nothing what
so ever to do with the SP 2 stuff.

Think of the R2 stuff as optional. You install Disk 2 only on the servers
you want to use those options *on*.

Think of the SP 2 stuff as mandatory. You are going to want to install the
SP 2 on *all* Win 2k3 servers.

hth
DDS

"gocrm" <gocrm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi Danny,

Way cool! I am grateful for your detailed answers.

I already upgraded some of the W2K3 SP1 servers to SP2. I am wondering if
I
could still run setup from disk#2 or the R2 and get the same result?

--
Regards,

Andy


"Danny Sanders" wrote:

How long ago did you run the disk 2 setup on your branch servers? Any
known
compatibility or unusual problem since then?

They have been running since August of last year.

FYI we had a MS rep come out and look over out DFSR setup and it was
*their*
suggestion to just use the second disk of the R2 set to upgrade a Win 2k3
SP
1 machine to R 2. *Their* reasoning is just what I passed along to you,
the
first disk is the exact installation of Win 2k3 SP 1 that you would get
*any* way you arrived any a Win 2k3 Sp1 computer. This was a MS
suggestion.
This was not something I just tried and thought Hmm looks OK so it must
be
OK.

They have been running for months without any problems associated with
NOT
being a proper R2 installation. For one thing you can NOT set up an R2
replication group without both members being R2. I have tried this and if
the second computer is Win 2k3 SP 1, is will not succeed.

No such problem with any of the Win 2k3 SP 1 servers we updated to R2 by
just running setup 2 from the second disk. DFSR saw 2 R2 servers and set
up
the replication group.



When you are ready to test it on SP2, would you please be so kind as to
update the result here? I would suspect it would be the same. I am
waiting
for the arrival of the new servers. Until then, I don't have an
environment
to test it in. Thanks very much and have a great weekend.

I'm waiting for a while.
I would suggest looking in these news groups to see what issues others
are
having and how they recovered. Before I test I look through these news
groups to see what issues others are having and how they recovered and it
cuts down on my testing.

hth
DDS

"gocrm" <gocrm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi Danny,

Whoa. I did that before, using disk 2 on W2K3 SP1 and it displayed R2.
However, I was worrying that's may not be the right way to do it.

How long ago did you run the disk 2 setup on your branch servers? Any
known
compatibility or unusual problem since then?

When you are ready to test it on SP2, would you please be so kind as to
update the result here? I would suspect it would be the same. I am
waiting
for the arrival of the new servers. Until then, I don't have an
environment
to test it in. Thanks very much and have a great weekend.

--
Regards,

Andy


"Danny Sanders" wrote:

So let say we have a bunch of servers running on W2K3 with SP1 or
SP2,
does
that mean I can just insert the R2 #2 CD and install the features
onto
these
servers and that would automatically make my W2K3 SP1 and SP2
servers
becomes
R2?


That is it exactly!!! On our branch servers that were Win 2k3 SP 1
*before*
R2 ever came out, all we had to do was run setup2 from the second disk
of
the R2 set and when it finished the install and rebooted it displayed
Win 2k3 R2.

I've done this with Win 2k3 SP 1 machines, we have to test SP2 before
we
install it on our servers but I suspect that a Win 2k3 SP 2 computer
can
be
changed to a Win 2k3 SP 2 R2 computer just by running setup2 from the
second
disk.

hth
DDS

"gocrm" <gocrm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thank you. I am a tiny bit confused.

You mentioned W2K3 R2 is a version with W2K3 SP1 and Feature CD
(second
CD).
So let say we have a bunch of servers running on W2K3 with SP1 or
SP2,
does
that mean I can just insert the R2 #2 CD and install the features
onto
these
servers and that would automatically make my W2K3 SP1 and SP2
servers
becomes
R2?

---
Regards,

Andy


"Danny Sanders" wrote:

Thank you very much. So to understand correctly. If I update
from
the
current W2K3 SP1 to SP2, it would be the same as having W2K3 R2?

Nope.

It may (not sure haven't tested) be possible to have a Win 2k3 SP 1
R2
computer and Win 2k3 SP 2 R2 computer, a Win 2k3 Sp 1 and a Win
2k3
SP 2
computer, and all are different.

R2 and SP 2 are different. SP 2 is an OS upgrade that should be
applied
to
all your Win 2k3 servers.

R2 is a *feature* upgrade. You would install the *feature* update
only
on
the server you want to use that feature on.

Example. We use R2 for the updated DFSR features. We want our
branch
offices
to replicate data back here to our hub server. We only installed R2
on
those
branch servers and the hub they are replicating to.

With SP 2 after testing we will eventually get around to installing
SP
2
on
all of our Win 2k3 server.

SP 2 does not include *any* of the updated features that R 2
include.

hth
DDS

"gocrm" <gocrm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thank you very much. So to understand correctly. If I update
from
the
current W2K3 SP1 to SP2, it would be the same as having W2K3 R2?
Meaning
after the upgrade it will contain all the features as W2K3 R2?

Sorry for the newbie questions.

--
Regards,

Andy


"Danny Sanders" wrote:

1) If I don't upgrade and leave the host with the Windows
2003 ,
will
this
cause a compatibility issue since the host is R2 and the VMs
are
not?

2) Will I gain any real benefit by upgrading the host to R2?
Will
it
give
me any better performance?


R2 is not an upgrade. It's a feature update. R2 is a 2 disk set,
disk
1
is
Win 2k3 SP1. Disk 2 is the updated features. If you want a Win
2k3
SP
1
server just use disk 1. If you want to use the updated features
(DFSR
for
example) you install those update features on your Win 2k3 SP 1
servers
by
running setup2 from the second disk of the R2 set. You will gain
better
performance when using the R2 updated features as opposed to
using
the
same
features in Win 2k 3 SP1. DFSR for example.


SP2 is the upgrade.

hth
DDS

"neo [mvp outlook]" <neo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
message
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No for compatibility/performance. Basically Windows 2003 R2
is
Windows
2003 SP1 w/ a bonus pack of features (some of which you can
download
and
some not).


"gocrm" <gocrm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Greetings,

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