Re: Why won't MS and some other sites load on Vista and W2K?

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hhmm... so...

Test one: get a laptop that works, and put it on that network segment. If it fails, someone tried to set filtering on that segment, probably to contain someone who surfed too much..

Test two: Look real closely at one of those computers if you can, run rootkit revealer and a good antivirus, try Spybot and ad-aware on it, see if windows defender is halted from running. It's beginning to look like someone installed a bot-net of some type, and it's to me standard that they prevent updates, hence blocking microsoft...

i hope that's not the case, if it is, you gotta burn down to the ground and rebuild. a bot-net means a person had control, one can predict what a program can do, but not a bot-net..

I'm not sure what the 3rd possiblity is... is all this mess on the same network segment? if so, it may be a network problem., but not real likely..

j.

WRWynn wrote:
When attempting to log on to msn.com, Microsoft.com, windows update, in fact virtually all MS sites I’ve tried, I see the hourglass at the lower left of the IE6 browser (IE7 on Vista), with “Web site found. Waiting for reply” where it would normally appear.

The progress bar moves sloooowly along for about 30 minutes before finally timing out, with the browser error:


The page cannot be displayed
The page you are looking for is currently unavailable. The Web site might be experiencing technical difficulties, or you may need to adjust your browser settings.



When I ping from the command prompt I can hit sites such as google, yahoo, lycos, apple, as well as many private sites I get round trip reply times ranging from 22-57 ms.

MS sites, and others such as aol.com immediately time out when attempting to ping.

"Brains,None" wrote:

wwweeeeiriirrrrdddddd............ I'll await their info...

j.

WRWynn wrote:
No problems at all with XP Pro, Server 2003, Win98SE, or even Mac OSX systems on the network.

All Windows 2000 (3 machines) and 2 Vista machines have this trouble.

I will have the customer check the error message. It takes about 10-15 minutes sometimes before the message appears. In the meantime the page shows at the bottom that its loading (any MS page)



"Brains,None" wrote:

Hmm.. Ok.. now we KNOW it's a os thingie...

what's the error page? relating to network timeout (heading to that msn is on a different wire than google...)

or, is it a router/firewall problem? 3rd party firewall? One computer, or many? (many, from reading your post.... Is there a "work enabler" somewhere, such as one of the products that keep people working rather than surfing?)

how about other windows os'es..?? XP, fer instance? grab a laptop that works and put it on that network segment..

do lots of crazy trials.. sometimes i've stumbled across things like soundcards that disable harddrives.. (b/c they used to have ide controllers embedded from the olden days..)

J.


WRWynn wrote:
Same problem with IE6.

Firefox used to work now it has the same problem.


"Brains,None" wrote:

Try an alternate browser, just to see if it's the new IE 7... Or, try rolling back to Internet Explorer 6.

j.

WRWynn wrote:
This is a problem that has plagued me for over a year. A client running Server 2003 SP1 with the server handing out DHCP in a dual NIC scenario cannot access MSN or other Microsoft websites on any of their W2K or Vista client machines.

Other sites such as google, yahoo, etc. load immediately with no problems, however any MS site (and a few others I've forgotten) "sit and spin," giving an error page after about 10-15 minutes.

They rely on MSN premium mail so this is real problem for the client.

An MS tech helped me resolve the situation several months ago on one of the W2K machines by modifying the MTU settings in the registry, but the problem came back a month or so later.

Now their new Vista machines have the same difficulty.
.

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