RE: Zero Downtime Wish
- From: Newell White <NewellWhite@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 06:07:01 -0800
Fair enough.
I made no mention of Exchange or IIS, as we have our web-site and e-mail
served by a hosting company.
IMO any organisation big enough to justify rolling their own is big enough
to have Windows and Unix teams.
No MS marketing man would admit it, but Windows server seems optimised for
intranets of Windows workstations rather than third-party hosting. And when
you consider that in this environment each server supports sales of 30-50
copies of XP and Office, that's correct strategy!
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Newell White
"Mark Joya" wrote:
It will never happen. Installing the patches will take at least 10 minutes to.
apply 3 or more patches in 1 shot and the reboot process which is around 2
minutes to shutdown and 2 minutes to boot up (assuming very fast computer).
Regarding your SP1 installation. Did you notice that while you're installing
the SP1 your machine's services are not usable already until it's done for
the next 20 minutes or more. Don't tell me that SP1 took only 3 minutes to
install on your server? Well that's a super computer that doesn't apply to
everyone.
Frequent reboots is most of the time not an option for hosting companies
like me. Sometimes, we use the uptime report to increase our credibility to
our customers and prospects.
By the way, I hope that people won't think that my message was to compare
Linux and Windows. What I'm trying to say here is a real issue on rebooting
that we're facing. Did I said earlier that I myself is Microsoft Solution Fan?
"Newell White" wrote:
Simple arithmetic tells us that if 14-day reboot is accomplished in 9 minutes
Mictosoft's claim is true.
We run 2k3 SP1 on our PDC emulator with DNS, WINS, DHCP, and
Terminal/App/File server roles.
The 28-day reboot takes about 6 minutes.
The virtues of Linux are of limited interest to working slobs who use this
group to keep their colleagues up and running, and are never invited to turn
their organisation's IT skills strategy on its head.
Not that I am deploring free speech - say all you want about Linux and
yourself.
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Newell White
"Mark Joya" wrote:
Hello,
Microsoft has been telling everyone that Windows Server can go as high as
99.95% uptime.
But how will Microsoft explain to everyone that if you check
www.microsoft.com in www.netcraft.com, it shows that they reboot their
servers every 14 days while other Linux based servers can go without reboots
in the next 365 days?
I'm love Microsoft solutions and I would recommend Microsoft solutions for
almost anything but can they be serious in working on a Windows Server that
doesn't require reboots just to install a patch? Service packs are ok but
patches shouldn't require a reboot. Components should be able to be stalled
or stopped while patching then resume after the patch process without reboots.
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