Re: Trust Issues

Hi Gabe,

Thanks for the update!

I understand both of two DCs in the same subnet and there is no firewall
between them, however, I am not sure how the CPQTEAM acts and if it has
similiar function to block the port. This is the reason I confirm with you.
I apologize for any confusion.

This issue does like a little wierd. I would like to confirm that are you
able to sccuessfullly add win2k3 domain account to the win2k domain? In
other words, if you share a folder in win2k domain, are you able to select
win2k3 domain and add account to the folder Security tab? If you share a
folder in win2k3 domain, are you able to select win2k domain and add
account to the folder Security tab?

I ask these questions intend to know if the trust has been sucessfully
establish and the only issue is you receveid the error message when
validate this trust; or the trust has not been succussfully established at
all.

On other hand, I will perform more resaerch on this issue and post back if
I have any found.

Thank you for your patience!

Best regards,

Rebecca Chen

MCSE2000 MCDBA CCNA


Microsoft Online Partner Support
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>Rebecca,
>
>In my email to you, I stated that the servers are on the same subnet.
There
>is no firewall between them. There appear to be no name resolution
problems
>between them.
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>""Rebecca Chen [MSFT]"" <v-rebc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>news:<m40pFuifFHA.1336@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>...
>> Hi Gabe,
>>
>> I have received three files.
>>
>> Based on my reseach, since this issue only occur when win2k validate
trust
>> to win2k3, it is sucessfully that win2k3 vallidate to win2k. Therefore,
>> probably, it is caused by the ports blocked by firewall.
>>
>> Throught the MPSreport, I have found you installed CPQTEAM, which is a
>> network application. I am not sure if it is a kind of firewall, however,
>> please check it and the windows firwall if port 445 and port 137 are
>> opened. I have seen a similar issue and the root cuase is two ports are
>> deleted and cause the network package cannot be returned to win2k server.
>>
>> Please open the port to check the status and post back if there is any
>> update.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Rebecca Chen
>>
>> MCSE2000 MCDBA CCNA
>>
>>
>> Microsoft Online Partner Support
>> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
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>> >Thanks, Rebecca.
>> >
>> >In my first post I mentioned that I put entries in both LMHOSTS file.
>> >Everything is in all CAPS, and after making the LMHOSTS entry, I ran
>> >nbtstat -R and nbtstat -c...everything looks right.
>> >
>> >I'll email the image, but anyone else can see it here:
>> >http://www.gabeknuth.com/trusterr.bmp
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >Gabe
>> >
>> >""Rebecca Chen [MSFT]"" <v-rebc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >news:n%23V1pFUfFHA.944@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> Hi Gabe ,
>> >>
>> >> I agree with Todd that this message is misleading, probably, it is a
>> >> name
>> >> resolution issue. My expereince is that lmhost entry is very
important.
>> >> I
>> >> have taken long time to get NT and win2k3 trust work after carefullly
>> >> adding the lmhost host entry since the entry has very strict
>> requirement.
>> >> I
>> >> understand you have added the entry in lmhost file, however, please
>> >> re-check the entry like follows:
>> >>
>> >> 10.0.0.1 PDCNAME #PRE #DOM:DOMAIN-NAME
>> >> 10.0.0.1 "DOMAIN-NAME \0x1b" #PRE
>> >>
>> >> Note The domain name in this entry is case sensitive. Make sure that
>> >> you
>> >> use uppercase characters for the domain name. If you use lowercase
>> >> characters for the domain name, NetBT does not recognize the name.
>> >>
>> >> Note Make sure that you space these entries correctly. Replace
10.0.0.1
>> >> with the IP address of your primary domain controller (PDC). Replace
>> >> PDCName with the NetBIOS name of your PDC, and replace domain with
your
>> >> Windows NT domain name. There must be a total of 20 characters within
>> >> the
>> >> quotations (the domain name plus the appropriate number of spaces to
>> >> pad
>> >> up
>> >> to 15 characters, plus the backslash, plus the NetBIOS hex
>> >> representation
>> >> of the service type).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> After correctly key in the entry, the issue is gone at my side. With
>> >> this
>> >> entry, you can sucessfully ping throught the desitnation server
without
>> >> DNS
>> >> and WINS server since the DC will this entry to find the destination
>> >> server. Fore more details, please refer to the following article:
>> >>
>> >> 180094 How to write an LMHOSTS file for domain validation
>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;180094
>> >>
>> >> If the issue persists, please help me gather the folloiwng
>> >> information:
>> >> 1. Take a screen shot of the error and send it to v-rebc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> for
>> >> research.
>> >> 2. Refer to the following steps to run MPSReport on BOTH source DC and
>> >> desination DC, send me the MPSReport and let me know which one is the
>> >> source, which one is the desitination and when the error occurs:
>> >>
>> >> please download the MPS report tool from the following link and send
>> >> the
>> >> result (CAB) file to me. This log file can help me clarify the
computer
>> >> configuration.
>> >>
>> >>
>>
<http://download.microsoft.com/download/b/b/1/bb139fcb-4aac-4fe5-a579-30b0bd
>> >> 915706/MPSRPT_SETUPPerf.EXE>
>> >>
>> >> a. Double click this file to run it.
>> >> b. After that, please go to
>> C:\windows\MPSReports\Setup\Reports\Cab
>> >> .
>> >> c. Find a file named [COMPUTERNAME]_MPSReports.CAB
>> >> d. Send this cab file to me at v-rebc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>
>> >> Any udpate, let's get in touch!
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >>
>> >> Rebecca Chen
>> >>
>> >> MCSE2000 MCDBA CCNA
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Microsoft Online Partner Support
>> >> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>> >>
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>> >>>From: "Gabe Knuth" <gknuth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>>References: <#F9Ur0NfFHA.3916@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> <eEIKYjOfFHA.2424@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>>Subject: Re: Trust Issues
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>> >>>Unfortunately (or fortunately), it's not SP1 .
>> >>>
>> >>>Thanks for the try...
>> >>>
>> >>>"Doug Sherman [MVP]" <dsherman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >>>news:eEIKYjOfFHA.2424@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>>I have not encountered this error in the context of trusts.
>> >>>> However, if the Win 2003 DC is running SP1, see this:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;895085
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Doug Sherman
>> >>>> MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "Gabe Knuth" <gknuth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >>>> news:#F9Ur0NfFHA.3916@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>>> All,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I'm trying to set up a two-way external trust between a Windows
2000
>> AD
>> >>>> and
>> >>>>> a Windows 2003 AD.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> From the 2003 side, I can set up the trust just fine and verify
>> >> outgoing.
>> >>>>> On the 2000 side, I can create the trust, but when I verify it, I
>> >> receive
>> >>>>> the following error:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "Information from the primary domain controller for the domain
>> >> werner.com
>> >>>>> cannot be obtained because: the RPC server is unavailable. Make
>> >>>>> sure
>> >>>>> that
>> >>>>> the PDC is operating properly and then try again."
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I've been through this forum a dozen times so far. I've found
posts
>> >> that
>> >>>>> suggest pinging the domain names (which works), adding entries to
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> LMHOSTS file (which I did), making sure the RPC service is running
>> >>>>> (it
>> >>>> is),
>> >>>>> and adding the trusted domain as a secondary DNS zone to on each
>> domain
>> >>>>> (also done), but none of them has worked.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Can anyone think of anything else?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>> Gabe
>> >>>>> gknuth at werner dot com
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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