Re: Downgrading frustrations
- From: "Danny Sanders" <Danny.Sanders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 10:28:00 -0600
> So, with all the confirming behind me I decided to check my mail. I
> needed to establish a new profile in Thunderbird...As soon as I attempted
> configure the profile? She blinked out! This may be complicated by the
> sharing of a Thunderbird install in his other OS...
>
> I was weary by then and surrendered. However? I'm leaning toward
> Thunderbird being the source of the 'crash'. I still am baffled why there
> is not warning? The ol's black screen and reboot?!
I've seen bad drivers do this to computers. Usually the writers of the
drivers don't provide a way to write to the event viewer. Not exactly sure
what "Thunderbird" is but I would uninstall it and test.
I've also seen a bad card do similar things to a computer (Just restart for
no reason). If when installing software you get errors, check the memory by
replacing it with "known good" memory. Also a flaky Video card can do this.
Test by replacing the video card with a "known good" video card.
In my experience, a sudden and unexpected shutdown/ restart is *usually*
hardware related. If it is software related it is most likely a driver. I've
never seen that kind of behavior on a computer where all software installed
without errors, the OS installs just fine with no corruption. I have seen
the OS install corrupt but that was due to bad RAM. The RAM had a bad chip
on it.
hth
DDS W 2k MVP MCSE
"Slip Kid" <G-2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Danny Sanders wrote:
>> It will work as a "desktop". I'm not sure what changes were recommended
>> to be made or what. If I were in the same boat I would just disable the
>> services not needed.
>> See:
>> http://security.berkeley.edu:2002/MinStds/Determining-Un-Services-Windows.html
>>
>> I would have to guess the instability has to do with one or two of the
>> modifications you made, or possibly a bad or loose cable or card.
>> If those themes were "unsupported" try removing them.
>>
>> The bottom line is the server version *can* be used as a workstation if
>> that is what you want. It basically can handle more connections to it, it
>> can handle more RAM than the average workstation OS, but *some*
>> applications have a more expensive version designed to work on servers.
>> He should be aware of this when purchasing products. He should
>> specifically ask if it works on a server and don't assume it works on a
>> server if it does not state that specifically. You don't want him
>> spending money on software that won't run on a server.
>>
>> What you want to do can be done.
>
>
> Danny,
>
> Last evening I imposed myself upon the location of my dilemma...
>
> I first established a new profile.
>
> I then went and repeated each of the steps that are recommended for the
> downgrade. None required a re-do. They'd all taken the first time
> through.
>
> Next, I went into device manager and one by one checked with MS to confirm
> if each driver was up to date. All were blessed.
>
> (I'd been up without a glitch for nearly two hours and was feeling good)
>
> So, with all the confirming behind me I decided to check my mail. I
> needed to establish a new profile in Thunderbird...As soon as I attempted
> configure the profile? She blinked out! This may be complicated by the
> sharing of a Thunderbird install in his other OS...
>
> I was weary by then and surrendered. However? I'm leaning toward
> Thunderbird being the source of the 'crash'. I still am baffled why there
> is not warning? The ol's black screen and reboot?!
>
> My guess as to why the error logs show nothing? It dumps before any error
> reporting can take place? No, not a single log shows any evidence of the
> "final', untimely exit. In fact, the logs are error free! Which is not
> bad. There are several "info" entries and a couple of minor "warnings" -
> so I know the reprorting is working - but nothing serious is happening but
> no, I can't confirm from the logs why it's closing...
>
> On the plus side! Things were moving along at record speed. Yeah, it was
> not only not hesitating prior to execution of a command? It was clearly
> faster than any OS I'd used. (Yes this subjective, I'm gong with my
> instincts)
>
> So, I am narrowing down the 'cause'. No, I can't say I have provided him
> with a wealth of apps, but a CD played fine. (It was nice to have a
> distraction of a bit of music during my labor)
>
> I shall proceed with cautious optimism. Yes, if one has the bucks? I
> think '03 may get my vote as "less than a server" before it's all over. I
> was more than impressed by its response - till the surprise and uncalled
> for ending.
>
> Again, thank you for the encouragement. I see the light at the end of the
> tunnel.
>
> You didn't have to indulge me, I appreciate your effort. I remember when
> Usenet worked that way!
.
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