Re: providing backup for other domains



Ace,

Thank you so much.

I did open tcp & udp 53 on the routers. I also set security in DNS to allow
zone transfers and, it all seems to be working.

I appreciate the thorough response!

Steve

"Ace Fekay [MVP]" wrote:

In news:468F8C78-3362-439D-94EC-2CA40835E546@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,
steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <stevemcmillaninccom@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
stated, which I commented on below:
We are a consulting firm who helps small to medium businesses set up
Windows 2003 servers. Most have a local domain name with 10 to 50
workstations. Some have small business server running and some just
have a single server running DNS, AD, print services, file services.

Because they only have a single server, im looking at finding ways to
make some things redundant, including DNS.

My question is, in my office, on my Windows AD server that is running
DNS, can i create a DNS Zone or Domain that is a replica of one of
the other businesses zone?

If you mean of one of your clients for a backup, yes. But it will be a
secondary zone of the client's zone. You will have to also allow the
appropriate ports from the clients' firewalls to your firewall to allow
access for zone transfers (TCP & UDP 53).

If the source zone, say it is on another DC that belongs to a totally
different forest/domain, yes as well,. You can do the same with zone
transfers.

Your machine can also host the zone for any domain that is not in it's
forest too, but it won't be able to reap the features of AD Integrated
zones.

When updates occur, will my replica zone be updated?

With zone transfers, yes, sort of. It just copies over changes using IXFR
(incremental zone transfer), from the Master (the Primary zone, or the
source) to your copy of the zone (the Secondary zone).


Or...is Windows DNS not a full fledged fully functional DNS server?

Yes, it SURE IS, and much much more. It's a full RFC complient DNS service
with additional features.


Can I also have a replica of a Zone from a Unix run DNS server that
is an authoritative name server for some xyz.com zone?

YEP. See above about Primary/Secondary zones.

Thanks for the help.

Steve

You are welcome.

Zone transfers allow you to put a read only copy (Secondary zone) elsewhere
from a read/write copy (Primary zone). Primary and Secondary zones store
their data as text files. On a Windows machine, the files can be found in
the \system32\dns folder with a file name such as "domain.com.dns". You can
have numerous read only copies, but there can only be one read/write of that
zone.

And also keep in mind, the authorative DNS server listed in the registrar
say for a public domain zone) does not have to be a Primary, it's just the
nameserver listed as authorative. It can get it;s data from a Primary that
is not listed, hence protected from public view.

AD Integrated zones are similar to Primary zones, however their data is
stored as binary data in the actual AD database and not as a text file. The
specific place in the AD database depends on the type of operating system
and replication scope and would take a deeper understanding of AD to
explain.

Additional security of AD integrated zones, is one of the numerous
additional feature of AD integrated zones, as well as the fact that there
can be more than one Primary zone copy of it. This is because all DNS
servers that host the zone in a domain or forest has the ability to be a
writable copies and becomes the actual "start of authority" (SOA) of that
zone when that occurs. That is why you can watch the SOA name on AD
integrated zones change. The data is replicated automatically as part of the
AD replication process because it is stored in the AD database. If you
install DNS on another DC, the zone data will *automatically* appear because
DNS will recognize the data in the AD database. AD integrated zones can also
act as a Primary zone for secondaries, whether they are on Windows machines,
BIND (on Unix) or any other name brand.

Remember, AD integrated zones still follow the RFCs, but have more features.

Learn Active Directory Design and Administration in 15 Minutes a Week:
Microsoft DNS - Part 3
http://www.serverwatch.com/tutorials/article.php/2226201

Understanding zones and zone transfer
http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/Library/940cdf9b-8e43-4b08-9a53-9fc2152644031033.mspx

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Ace
Innovative IT Concepts, Inc (IITCI)
Willow Grove, PA

This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
confers no rights.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT, MVP
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
Microsoft Certified Trainer

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