Re: Some DNS server names will not resolve using internal servers



"Brillmike" <brillmike@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Could this have something do do with a DNAME. I have run accross an
article
concerning a HOTFIX...KB920162.

Do you mean CNAME?

Why would you have ANY records for the
external sites?

If you do have the zone for any external sites
then your (internal) version of that zone must
be absolutely correct.

--
Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP
Accelerated MCSE
http://www.LearnQuick.Com
[phone number on web site]


I see DNS events, informational, for Event ID 5504 on myu domain
controller.
They look harmless but look related to me doing nslookups on the domain
names
that fail. Both of these names seem to have multiple IP addresses
associated
with the name....no a typical cname.

Can you shed some light, am i on to something?

"Herb Martin" wrote:

"Brillmike" <brillmike@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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www for microsoft is working again. I did not change anything but now
the
site is coming up fine.

BUT...LOGIN.gsionline.com is still not working. www.gsionline.com is.
When
i
do the nslookup on our ISP server i get this.
Address: 66.28.0.45
Non-authoritative answer:
Name: login.gsionline.com
Addresses: 167.68.27.53, 167.68.27.54, 167.68.27.55, 167.68.27.11

So the ISP is working and can be reached.

ON our own DNS server, which have the above addresses as FORWARDERS. I
get
this response.

Address: 10.10.0.202

DNS request timed out.
timeout was 2 seconds.
*** Request to sfdc1.howardrice.local timed-out

Your server didn't answer. You should play with
timeout value to ensure it is true failure and not just
slow:

nslookup -time=20 login.gsionline.com 10.10.0.202

[You should also try these FROM the actual Server's
command line too -- this will tell you if this is just
some problem with THIS server failing to reach a
particular resolution which the client can resolve
directly.]

But the forwarding is working for everything else (www.microsoft.com is
sketchy)
C:\Documents and Settings\mab>nslookup www.gsionline.com 10.10.0.202
Server: sfdc1.howardrice.local
Address: 10.10.0.202

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: www.gsionline.com
Addresses: 167.68.27.18, 167.68.27.47


C:\Documents and Settings\mab>nslookup www.gsionline.com 10.10.0.203
Server: sfdc2.howardrice.local
Address: 10.10.0.203

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: www.gsionline.com
Addresses: 167.68.27.47, 167.68.27.18

We have not rebooted the DNS server yet. Could this be a caching issue.
I
see entries for gsionline, but nothing the references
LOGIN.gsionline.com

Not likely a caching issue since the resolution itself
is not failing (the DNS server is TIMING OUT
completely).

So you are saying that if you change nothing but
the "login.gsionline.com" name to something else
your NSLookup commands work when they fail
with Login name against internal servers?

That is very goofy.

I might (eventually) reboot the server(s) but this
is not something that is usually necessary or even
that useful.

You can check the cache in the MMC by enabling
"Advanced" view. Cache will show as a pseudo
zone tree.



--
Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP
Accelerated MCSE
http://www.LearnQuick.Com
[phone number on web site]




"Herb Martin" wrote:

"Brillmike" <brillmike@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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We have two W2003 AD/DNS server replicating. From our client XP
machines I
can go to support.microsoft.com but not WWW.microsoft.com. I can go
to
WWW.gsionline.com but not LOGON.gsionline.com. We use forwarding so
all
internal machines are pointing to our internal DNS server. We do not
seem
to
have any issue with any other server names, just WWW for
microsft.com
and
LOGON for gsionline.com.

Ok, then somewhere those (2) records are being
overridden or picked up (hosts file, explicit zones,
trojan/virus, etc.)

What to do?

When you face such issues the first thing to do is
to test each DNS server involved EXPLICITLY
(from the clients):

nslookup www.Microsoft.com ISP.DNS.Server.IP
nslookup www.Microsoft.com Internal.DNS.Server.IP

(Do the first one for EACH and EVERY internal DNS
server.)

If both of these work, then likely you have something
(screwy) in a local Hosts file (%systemroot%\system32\
drives\etc\hosts). Such MIGHT be put there by a
malicious program or user who hates MS.

BTW: if i set the client to bypass the local DNS servers and resolve
to
the
DNS server we forward lookup to, then i can resolve the addresses.

You must never do this (except for test purposes) --
internal machines must use STRICTLY the internal
DNS servers which can resolve both internal and
external names.




--
Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP
Accelerated MCSE
http://www.LearnQuick.Com
[phone number on web site]


Thanks, Mike








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