Re: Win2k3 R2 - Storage Reporting on File Svr Cluster (SCSI-Attach

Hi Mike,

The 7.12 driver set from the link you gave me is actually the ones I used.
However, when you pull up their version information on the dll files, they
show v7.10. I questioned the IBM hardware support staff I contacted on this
and he said that the 7.12 downloads are correct and the driver version will
show 7.10.

I guess at this point there's not much else you can do. I'll see if the
company I work for has an IBM software contract and will try to get in touch
with someone at IBM.

Thanks for trying though. :-)

Paul


"Mike Rosado [MSFT]" wrote:

Paul,

I'm by no means an expert in this subject matter of FSRM nor IBM hardware,
but I'll try to assist you to the best of my ability.

I'm confused by you posting since you state that you are using IBM
ServerRAID driver set version 7.10, but on IBM's website show to have newer
drivers.

IBM ServeRAID BIOS and Firmware Diskettes for SCSI - Servers
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-62540

Unfortunately, these drivers have to play correctly with Clusdisk.sys. So
it's not working correctly, you have to find a way to get support from IBM
Technical Support to help you further.

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-----Original Message-----
"Paul L" <PaulL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Mike,

I've tried to contact IBM on this and they gave me the runaround because I
didn't have a software support contract. I wasn't able to find any
information on their knowledge base regarding this problem which isn't
exactly a surprise (I never had much luck with IBM support when it came to
their web site).

The ipsha.dll is version 7.10 and this is on an IBM xSeries 366 box with a
ServeRAID 6m adapter connecting to an IBM EXP400 storage cabinet. In
Cluster Manager, I have an IPSHA Disk D: resource which is attached to the
logical volume and an IPSHA Disk Q: which is my quorum volume. Both show
up
fine with the IBM ipsha disk resource dll which shows up as a "IBM
ServeRAID
Logical Disk" resource. Keep in mind that this is SCSI attached and not
iSCSI or fiber or other HBA.

If I tried to use the Physical Disk resource native to Win2k3 R2, it
would
not see the D: drive at all on the drop-down menu on the final screen of
the
wizard.. I could only see it if I used the IBM ServeRAID Logical Disk
resource.

So I do have a resrouce in my cluster group for the drive I want to
report
on, however, FSRM doesn't think it's a shared disk. I see the 3 logicial
drives in the scope when I set FSRM up, I then select the shared disk D:
but
when I try to move off the tab, I get the "cluster" error message I stated
at
the start of this thread.

IBM's documentation clearly states that you need to use the IBM
ServerRAID
Logical Disk resource in order to get the disks to swap over in a failover
and clearly, it's the only driver that seems to be able to see the logical
disks.

So is this a problem with IBM code in the 7.10 driver set (which is the
latest one btw) or is a bug in the Microsoft code where it thinks there is
no
physical disk (shared) attached to the cluster?

What do you think Mike?


"Mike Rosado [MSFT]" wrote:

Paul,

Can you confirm your statement of "It seems that the FSRM can't read any
of
the logical volumes attached through the IBM IPSHA resource driver." with
IBM then post response back to the newsgroup to share this experience
with
others?

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-----Original Message-----
"Paul L" <PaulL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi Mike,

The 2 servers in the cluster that I set up under 2003 R2 were set up
exactly in the way the IBM documentation stated. Unfortunately, the
native
Microsoft resource drivers did not see the shared disk/logical volumes
and
I
had to use the IBM ServeRAID IPSHA resource driver to attach the disk
resource. This is where I'm having the problem. The shared logical
volumes
are there in the resource manager, however they're in there using the
IPSHA
driver instead of the native Microsoft driver because the Microsoft
driver
couldn't see the logical volumes. It seems that the FSRM can't read
any
of
the logical volumes attached through the IBM IPSHA resource driver.

Paul


"Mike Rosado [MSFT]" wrote:

Paul,

You can sucessfully use IPSHA to configure a cluster, but for this you
would
need to seek help from IBM. Below is an old article of theirs that
discusses IPSHAHTO (Hostile Take-Over utility) on Microsoft Windows
2000
Advanced Server to configure an MSCS (cluster).

Installing Cluster Service using ServeRAID controller for Microsoft
Windows
2000 Advanced Server - Servers
http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=psg1MIGR-4FJPZ7

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-----Original Message-----
"Paul L" <PaulL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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That would explain it then. The IPSHA.DLL which drives the IBM
ServeRaid
adapters and create the shared disk fine, but the native MS disk
resource
won't read or see it. So I guess I'm out of luck there...


"Mike Rosado [MSFT]" wrote:

Hi Paul,

Are you using FSRM? Because in clustered environments, FSRM only
allows
you
to generate reports on shared disks for which a cluster disk
resource
exists.

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-----Original Message-----
"Paul L" <Paul L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Chuck,

This is an IBM EXP400 disk array and the ipsha.dll from IBM is
loaded.
The
logical shared disk seen at drive D:. This is installed on each
node,
however, when I browse the server and select any disk letter from
the
report
scope dialog, i get the error that it's on a cluster server.

The documentation seems a little lacking with setting this up on
a
cluster
server. Is there anything online to step someone through it?

Thanks in advance,
Paul


"Chuck Timon [Microsoft]" wrote:

To use Storage Resource Manager in R2 you will need a VDS
Provider
from
your
storage vendor installed on each node. Then, in a cluster, to
run
reports,
you must be running the reports from the node that currently has
the
volume
online that you want to report on.

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Microsoft Corporation
Longhorn Readiness Team
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"Paul L" <limahl@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Greets!

I've recently set up a 2-node file server cluster under
Windows
2003
Ent.
R2 with a scsi attached disk array. Failovers work great and
life
is
grand, however I would like to set up the new R2 features for
Storage
Report Management and send out reports to our SysAdmin group.
The
problem
is that the MMC tool won't let me report on the drive that I
need
since
it's a cluster node.

I get the dialog:
Selected report scope paths: D:\.

You have chosen an invalid combination of paths for the
report
scope.
On
clustered deployments, all report scope paths should be set on
volumes
that belong to the same cluster resource group. Please select
valid
report scope paths.

As I am relatively new to doing Windows Clustering (this was
my
1st
one
actually), either I'm missing something in the terminology or
some
configuration setting that I overlooked needs to be set.

I'm hoping someone can guide me to the answer.

Thanks in advance,
Paul L.






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