Re: Adding x64 bit Win2003 node to existing 32 bit Win2003 MSCS

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You can see my fine pic and my fellow MVP's on the following web site:

https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvplist.aspx?Product=Windows+Server+-+Clustering

I did not attend USMA.

Regards,
John

"JT" <Jthayer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thanks John. Are you by any chance a USMA grad from 79?

--
John


"John Toner [MVP]" wrote:

John,

You cannot add a 64-bit machine to a 32-bit cluster. This applies to
both
x64 and IA-64 processors.

Regards,
John

"JT" <Jthayer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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One more clarification...
TechNet has an article at the following URL:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/312387/en-us

The title is "The addition of a 64-bit node to a 32-bit cluster is not
supported"

Reading the 2nd Analyze phase error message (that one is always the
heartbreaker, isn't it?), one sees "A cluster can only be created
using
nodes
that have the same processor architecture. Your cluster has a "Intel
x86"
processor and the node you attempted to add has a "Intel Itanium"
processor.
Remove "64-bitnode.corporation.com" from the nodes list and try
again."
To
me this implies an obvious incompatiblity with the IA64 processor.
However,
my plan is to use the x64 OS on a machine with XEON processors, which
retain
compatiblity with the x86 architecture. My sense is that this article
does
NOT apply to my situation and I should be OK. I would love to hear
that I
am
right.
Thanks.

--
John


"JT" wrote:

Hi all,
I am in a bit of a PANIC about a thread I have been pursuing on the
SQL
Server.clustering newsgroup. I am upgrading an existing MSCS
cluster
running
on two Dell PE 6650's with Win2003 SP1 32-bit edition. The two
nodes
are to
be replaced by two Dell PE 6850's with Win2003 x64 (NOT ITANIUM).
My
plan
for doing this was to failover to one of the existing nodes, evict
the
other
existing node, add one of the new nodes, lather, rinse and repeat.
(More
details are given in the thread below.) My consultant on the
newsgroup,
who
is extremely reputable in the SQL server community, informs me this
is
IMPOSSIBLE. I would greatly appreciate it an expert reply from
someone
in
this community. Thanks.



THREAD FROM
SQLSERVER.CLUSTERING................................................

Yes. You can't cluster 32 and 64 bit systems together. The drivers
are
not
interchangable. The on-disk SQL data files are identical, but not
much
else
is.

--
Geoff N. Hiten
Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Senior Database Administrator



"JT" <Jthayer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi Geoff,
To clarify, I will be using 32 bit SQL Server on both machines.
The
only
difference will be the OS's. Is this still a problem? If so, are
you
implying that the only upgrade path from 32 bit cluster hardware
to 64
bit
is
via MSCS recreation?
--
John


"Geoff N. Hiten" wrote:

No can do. You can't cluster a 32-bit node with a 64-bit node.

--
Geoff N. Hiten
Senior Database Administrator
Microsoft SQL Server MVP


"JT" <Jthayer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi,
I currently have a two instance SQL Server 2K SP4 (ENT) cluster
on
MSCS
with
Windows 2003 ENT SP1. Each instance runs on one of the two
nodes
of
the
cluster, which does not have a FC switch. My hardware is
currently
two
Dell
PE 6650's connected to an EMC CX300. My upgrade will be to
swap
out
the
PE
6650's for PE 6850's with Windows 2003 ENT x64 edition. My
plan is
to:
1. Failover to one node.
2. Evict the other node from the cluster.
3. Add the new 6850 as the new second cluster node.
4. Install SQL Server on the new node and Failover to it.
5. Evict the last 6650.
6. Add the second new 6850 to the cluster.

I would like to keep the same instance names for the SQL server
instances.

Are there any gotcha's I need to be aware of? Any
incompatibilities or
special circumstances with the 64 bit OS? Any known hotfixes I
need to
have
ready to go?

Thanks very much for any advice.

John

--
John

--
John





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