Re: cluster group

Currently config
Cluster group: Cluster IP Address
Cluster Name
Disk Q: (quorum).
Group 0: disk s: physical disk
Data file Share

I need group 0 to be able to failover along with the cluster group when I
disconnected the pub nic cables.

When I move the group 0 resources to cluster group, it failed over just
fine. But not when I place the resources in the group 0, it won’t failover
with the cluster group.

Thanks.




"Chuck Timon [MSFT]" wrote:

> All networks designated for cluster use on the node where the disk is online
> would have to fail so a regroup could be initiated and another node in the
> cluster could arbitrate for the resource and bring it online.
>
> I'm a little confused as to why a group would contain a single disk resource
> and nothing else. We used to do this with the quorum drive in NT 4. Now we
> do it with the full expectation the lone disks will be either moved into
> another group, or will be joined by other resources that can be used to
> access the data that is stored on it (e.g. IP address, Network Name, File
> Share Resource, Print Spooler, SQL, Exchange, etc...)
>
> --
> Chuck Timon, Jr.
> Microsoft Corporation
> CCS Beta Engineer
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
> warranties, and confers no rights.
> "anoni" <anoni@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:4DA93058-C334-4B46-875C-B33D04DA795F@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Is there anyway to make the 'lone' disk failed over with the cluster group
> > when the network connectivity stopped?
> > According MS doc, it should. it did not mention anything as all network
> > connectivity need to be failed which include private
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > "Chuck Timon [MSFT]" wrote:
> >
> >> If the heartbeat network is still connected the group with the disk will
> >> not
> >> failover. The cluster group fails over because the IP address fails when
> >> the public network connectivity goes away. A physical disk resource will
> >> continue to stay online if it is the only resource in the group. It will
> >> take all network connectivity, in this case, to get the 'lone' disk in
> >> the
> >> group to fail over.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Chuck Timon, Jr.
> >> Microsoft Corporation
> >> CCS Beta Engineer
> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
> >> warranties, and confers no rights.
> >> "anoni" <anoni@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:6DF329ED-01F3-4621-A9A8-E9D71BCEABF6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > When I'm testing my clustered servers by breaking network connectivity
> >> > (unplug the pub cables. I am using teamed nic), the cluster group
> >> > failover
> >> > the secondary server, but not group 0 which contain the shared disk.
> >> > When
> >> > I
> >> > move the shared disk from group 0 to cluster group, the shared disk (or
> >> > drive) will failover just fine, any reasons?
> >> >
> >> > I did a few other tests, all of them failed over ok.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks.
> >> >
> >> > "Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> You can always rename a group (though I would not rename the cluster
> >> >> group).
> >> >>
> >> >> Keep the cluster group as it is. Move your Group 1 disk to Group 0 if
> >> >> you
> >> >> like and use them from that Group.
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >>
> >> >> Rod
> >> >>
> >> >> MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
> >> >> http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
> >> >> http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
> >> >> http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "anoni" <anoni@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> news:118A71A7-286D-44AA-B75F-F6537C638132@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> > will the cluster services stop working if I move the disk1 to
> >> >> > cluster
> >> >> > group?
> >> >> > I assume I can rename group 0 to a more meaningful name. right?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> That is the way they programmed it. First disk = group 0, then
> >> >> >> second
> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> group 1, etc.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Rod
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
> >> >> >> http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
> >> >> >> http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
> >> >> >> http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "anoni" <anoni@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:97DDE189-7C16-4368-8F85-5334EB138E83@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> > By default, the quorum disk is in the default group, and the
> >> >> >> > shared
> >> >> >> > data
> >> >> >> > disk
> >> >> >> > in the group 0, any reasons?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> Best practice is to leave the cluster group alone, don't mess
> >> >> >> >> with
> >> >> >> >> it.
> >> >> >> >> To
> >> >> >> >> keep your system highly available the group needs to be left
> >> >> >> >> alone.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> If you see another drive in the cluster group, its a mistake and
> >> >> >> >> should
> >> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> >> fixed :)
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Clustering does not understand or carry about partitions, only
> >> >> >> >> what
> >> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> >> sees
> >> >> >> >> as physical disks.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Can you actually restore a 2TB disk in a timely fashion?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Rod
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
> >> >> >> >> http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
> >> >> >> >> http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
> >> >> >> >> http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "anoni" <anoni@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> news:1D6261DF-E175-4393-8AE5-031E76D33161@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> >> >I have a quorum drive and shared data drive, are there any
> >> >> >> >> >benefit
> >> >> >> >> >to
> >> >> >> >> >put
> >> >> >> >> > them in differ groups when I configure cluster services? by
> >> >> >> >> > defaut,
> >> >> >> >> > is
> >> >> >> >> > it
> >> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> >> > cluster group? Is there anyway I can have the shared drive
> >> >> >> >> > more
> >> >> >> >> > than
> >> >> >> >> > 2tb
> >> >> >> >> > on
> >> >> >> >> > one partition?
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
.

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