Re: cluster group

Do I need to add another ip and cluster name for the group 0 in order to
failover correctly?

"anoni" wrote:

> Currently config
> Cluster group: Cluster IP Address
> Cluster Name
> Disk Q: (quorum).
> Group 0: disk s: physical disk
> Data file Share
>
> I need group 0 to be able to failover along with the cluster group when I
> disconnected the pub nic cables.
>
> When I move the group 0 resources to cluster group, it failed over just
> fine. But not when I place the resources in the group 0, it won’t failover
> with the cluster group.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
> "Chuck Timon [MSFT]" wrote:
>
> > All networks designated for cluster use on the node where the disk is online
> > would have to fail so a regroup could be initiated and another node in the
> > cluster could arbitrate for the resource and bring it online.
> >
> > I'm a little confused as to why a group would contain a single disk resource
> > and nothing else. We used to do this with the quorum drive in NT 4. Now we
> > do it with the full expectation the lone disks will be either moved into
> > another group, or will be joined by other resources that can be used to
> > access the data that is stored on it (e.g. IP address, Network Name, File
> > Share Resource, Print Spooler, SQL, Exchange, etc...)
> >
> > --
> > Chuck Timon, Jr.
> > Microsoft Corporation
> > CCS Beta Engineer
> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
> > warranties, and confers no rights.
> > "anoni" <anoni@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:4DA93058-C334-4B46-875C-B33D04DA795F@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Is there anyway to make the 'lone' disk failed over with the cluster group
> > > when the network connectivity stopped?
> > > According MS doc, it should. it did not mention anything as all network
> > > connectivity need to be failed which include private
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > "Chuck Timon [MSFT]" wrote:
> > >
> > >> If the heartbeat network is still connected the group with the disk will
> > >> not
> > >> failover. The cluster group fails over because the IP address fails when
> > >> the public network connectivity goes away. A physical disk resource will
> > >> continue to stay online if it is the only resource in the group. It will
> > >> take all network connectivity, in this case, to get the 'lone' disk in
> > >> the
> > >> group to fail over.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Chuck Timon, Jr.
> > >> Microsoft Corporation
> > >> CCS Beta Engineer
> > >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
> > >> warranties, and confers no rights.
> > >> "anoni" <anoni@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > >> news:6DF329ED-01F3-4621-A9A8-E9D71BCEABF6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> > When I'm testing my clustered servers by breaking network connectivity
> > >> > (unplug the pub cables. I am using teamed nic), the cluster group
> > >> > failover
> > >> > the secondary server, but not group 0 which contain the shared disk.
> > >> > When
> > >> > I
> > >> > move the shared disk from group 0 to cluster group, the shared disk (or
> > >> > drive) will failover just fine, any reasons?
> > >> >
> > >> > I did a few other tests, all of them failed over ok.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks.
> > >> >
> > >> > "Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> You can always rename a group (though I would not rename the cluster
> > >> >> group).
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Keep the cluster group as it is. Move your Group 1 disk to Group 0 if
> > >> >> you
> > >> >> like and use them from that Group.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Cheers,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Rod
> > >> >>
> > >> >> MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
> > >> >> http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
> > >> >> http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
> > >> >> http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "anoni" <anoni@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:118A71A7-286D-44AA-B75F-F6537C638132@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> >> > will the cluster services stop working if I move the disk1 to
> > >> >> > cluster
> > >> >> > group?
> > >> >> > I assume I can rename group 0 to a more meaningful name. right?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > "Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> That is the way they programmed it. First disk = group 0, then
> > >> >> >> second
> > >> >> >> in
> > >> >> >> group 1, etc.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Cheers,
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Rod
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
> > >> >> >> http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
> > >> >> >> http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
> > >> >> >> http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> "anoni" <anoni@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > >> >> >> news:97DDE189-7C16-4368-8F85-5334EB138E83@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> >> >> > By default, the quorum disk is in the default group, and the
> > >> >> >> > shared
> > >> >> >> > data
> > >> >> >> > disk
> > >> >> >> > in the group 0, any reasons?
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > Thanks
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > "Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> Best practice is to leave the cluster group alone, don't mess
> > >> >> >> >> with
> > >> >> >> >> it.
> > >> >> >> >> To
> > >> >> >> >> keep your system highly available the group needs to be left
> > >> >> >> >> alone.
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> If you see another drive in the cluster group, its a mistake and
> > >> >> >> >> should
> > >> >> >> >> be
> > >> >> >> >> fixed :)
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> Clustering does not understand or carry about partitions, only
> > >> >> >> >> what
> > >> >> >> >> it
> > >> >> >> >> sees
> > >> >> >> >> as physical disks.
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> Can you actually restore a 2TB disk in a timely fashion?
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> Cheers,
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> Rod
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
> > >> >> >> >> http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
> > >> >> >> >> http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
> > >> >> >> >> http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> "anoni" <anoni@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > >> >> >> >> news:1D6261DF-E175-4393-8AE5-031E76D33161@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> >> >> >> >I have a quorum drive and shared data drive, are there any
> > >> >> >> >> >benefit
> > >> >> >> >> >to
> > >> >> >> >> >put
> > >> >> >> >> > them in differ groups when I configure cluster services? by
> > >> >> >> >> > defaut,
> > >> >> >> >> > is
> > >> >> >> >> > it
> > >> >> >> >> > in
> > >> >> >> >> > cluster group? Is there anyway I can have the shared drive
> > >> >> >> >> > more
> > >> >> >> >> > than
> > >> >> >> >> > 2tb
> > >> >> >> >> > on
> > >> >> >> >> > one partition?
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> > Thanks
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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