RE: "Guest mode" in WiFi RADIUS?
- From: Ryan Hanisco <RyanHanisco@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 08:00:03 -0700
Hi Chris,
I like to use 802.1x with PEAP to the workstations. This requires you to
run a CA internally, but simplifies the setup on the workstations as it can
provide a rotating key and only relies on encrypted username and password
from the workstation rather than typing in a key/ shared secret.
Cisco has some step-by-step document on this as it is how they have theirs
set up internally. I have also done this at a large company with doezens of
sites so I can answer questions too.
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Ryan Hanisco
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Chicago, IL
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"Chris Lukowski" wrote:
Is there an online guide on how to do something like this? I don't mind work.
on the back end as long as it's relatively simple to get guests onto our
network (19 times out of 20 this will only be for access to the internet or
their office VPNs) without compromising our network security. Right now we
are using MAC filtering, WPA w/ TKIP-PSK, and no SSID broadcasts. So not only
do we have to go into their wireless settings and add our SSID, but we also
have to type in our PSK password right in front of them and THEN go to a
workstation and add their MACs to the appropriate WAP. What a PITA. There has
to be a better way, and I'm willing to bet that way is even more secure than
what we have now.
"Ryan Hanisco" wrote:
Hi Chris,
Often times, companies will take a different tack on this. They will create
two different VLANS, one for authenticated internal clients and another for
guests. When a user authenticates to IAS/ Radius, you can hand back the VLAN
as one of the responses of successful authentication and the WAP will change
the VLAN on shich the client communicates.
This lowers the security burden on IT staff as you're not troubleshooting
every NIC driver and windows configuration out there that some one might
bring in. This also allows you to build access lists and QoS policies to
protect resources and bandwidth from these guests.
This works well with CISCO access points and is functional with others as
these values are part of the standard RADIUS negotiation. This takes a bit
more networking skill, but can lower the support burden.
Of course you can hide your SSID and use MAC autheintication, but this adds
only a minute or two to the hacking time if a skilled person wants to get in.
SSIDs can be sniffed and MACs impersonated.
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Ryan Hanisco
MCSE, MCTS: SQL 2005, Project+
Chicago, IL
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"Chris Lukowski" wrote:
Hi,
Right now we have a bunch of spread out and independent Linksys wireless
access points that we're considering pointing to a central Windows Server
2003 RADIUS (or RRAS) server. One main goal we're trying to accomplish apart
from the centralization of security settings is the ability to quickly allow
a guest to connect to our wireless network with his laptop WITHOUT having to
enter much more than our SSID. Right now we're using TKIP-PSK WPA security
and in order for us to allow a sales rep to connect his/her laptop to our
network we have to enter in our network key, usually with them standing right
over us. We're not entirely comfortable with that, and going into their
wireless network settings and adding our SSID w/ network key is a pain, but I
don't see any other way around it. That is unless there's a cool wireless USB
device that will allow us to hardcode our SSID and other credentials to the
device so that all we do is attach it to a laptop, install the drivers, and
let it rip. I'm not sure that switching to RADIUS will make our lives easier
in the "guest visitor" scenario, but we just need to make sure that devices
not part of our Active Directory domain can authenticate using a guest
password (without having the user logout of their session and signing on as a
Guest).
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