Re: Unexplained User Account Deletion



Oh I absolutely do not believe it is an event log problem. It doesn't control anything, it simply reports stuff that is submitted to it to report. Both IDs were mucked with, what did it, I can't even guess. I don't believe it was the event log obviously and I am not really of the opinion it is ADUC either. We could guess for days at what it is and never hit it, it will require digging in and looking at the system closely to see if you can find other things that seem to fit the pattern.

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zexmarquis wrote:
Joe,

Thank you again for your prompt reply, however i do not believe the
event log is at the heart of the problem in light of the fact that the
event log is no more than a "passive" component of the system whole
whose purpose is to display information passed to it in a readable
format.

Being of a rational disposition I will not totally dismiss the
possibility of an event log "malfunction", but I will also not concede
to the idea of the aforementioned "hiccup" until all other avenues have
been explored. It is not rational to excuse ADUC from the list of
possible culprits based soley on an arguement of pure speculation. A
statement like, "... I indirectly support millions and i've never seen
it so it doesn't exist...", does not constitute an alibi of any
considerable merit.

Again, I do thank you and your millions of quasi-clients for your
contribution to this effort but the inquiry goes on.

Good luck on your Third Edition.


Joe Richards [MVP] wrote:
I have not ever seen a case where you delete one ID and two IDs get
deleted. It is possible the GUI could screw up but unlikely if you are
talking about ADUC as I would expect to hear a lot of that as I
indirectly support millions of users through work and indirectly support
multi-millions through joeware questions and newsgroups.

As for the events and how they come in, I don't really study the event
logs, I don't much care for the whole system. What I tend to do for work
is put provisioning tools into place and no one really manages AD
directly, they request things through the tool and everything is logged
that way.

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Author of O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition
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zexmarquis wrote:
Joe,

Thanks for replying. I did not mean for you to take the 'modified
GUID' statement literally, however I am referring to the DEL: appended
to the beginning of the GUID when generated in the event.

Moving on, in your experience, have you seen the issue i've described
or can you provide a viable explanation as to why this may have
occurred?

Joe Richards [MVP] wrote:
What you mean generates a modified GUID? The object GUID does not change
during a "delete", it is maintained through the tombstone process.

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Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
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michael_gore718@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
So here's an iffy one. Turns out a user account was deleted and
everything is pointing towards me. However I don't recall deleting the

account, then confirming the deletion, and confirming the deletion of
the associated mailbox. Heres the info from the Event logs, the header

is the same for both events:

Header>>


Date: 12/13/06
Source: Security
Time: 4:18:35 PM
Category: Account Mgmt
Type: Success A
Event ID: 630


This is the event in question>>


User Account Deleted:
Target Account Name: User1
Target Domain: DOMAIN
Target Account ID: DOMAIN\User1
Caller User Name: admin
Caller Domain: DOMAIN
Caller Logon ID: (0x0,0x64390BE)
Privileges: -


Here is the account I was working on at the time>>


User Account Deleted:
Target Account Name: User2
Target Domain: DOMAIN
Target Account ID: User2
DEL:d006b3a0-09de-45f2-8393-ba47246b8ea8
Caller User Name: admin
Caller Domain: DOMAIN
Caller Logon ID: (0x0,0x64390BE)
Privileges:


Right off the back i'm sure you can tell that something is missing.
WHERE IS THE GUID? It's been my experience that a deleted account
generates a modified GUID. Im not sure why the GUID was not generated
in the event. Can anyone explain this?


Another bit of information, the two events were timestamped for exactly

4:18:35 PM. Any help on this will be appreciated.


.



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