Re: Access Rights to See DACLs in ADAM



I can submit the bug, and I may even fix it :)
What specifically you want to be bugged? The checkbox in ACE editor in ldp
for ACCESS_SYSTEM_SECURITY should be removed?
Please email me directly, drop online dot.

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"Jeffrey Harris" <1Jeffrey1.1Harris1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Granting that right resolved the issue. Thanks, Dmitri and Lee.

Dmitri, I am not sure where in the Microsoft organization you are, but can
you submit a bug report for the "Access Security Security" right in ADAM,
and
maybe someone will fix it some day?

Lee,

The "Manage Auditing and Security Log" right is described here:
http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/Library/4e1fa44d-d283-4709-a8ef-460b3611f4031033.mspx?mfr=true

Thanks again.
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"Lee Flight" wrote:


"Dmitri Gavrilov [MSFT]" <dmitrig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Granting access in ADAM DACL does not work (I never figured out why,
sorry).

MSDN says:

"The ACCESS_SYSTEM_SECURITY access right is not valid in a DACL because
DACLs do not control access to a SACL. However, you can use the
ACCESS_SYSTEM_SECURITY access right in a SACL to audit attempts to use
the
access right."

which is does not really answer the why

Your user must have this privilege. Admins (members of
builtin\administrators) have it by default. To grant it to another
user,
you should edit local security policy (user rights assignments) using
gpedit.msc.

and the policy name in the UI is "Manage auditing and security log",
I can never remember which Se privs those translate to.

Lee Flight



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"Jeffrey Harris" <1Jeffrey1.1Harris1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Lee,

When I turned off the SACL option in LDP, I AM able to access the DACL
using
either the service or ADAM specific administrator (a Windows account
set
up
as an ADAM administrator but with no Windows Admin privileges).
However,
I
cannot access either one if the SACL option is turned on, and the
Windows
account is not a local administrator account.

Can you confirm that a local administrator account is required to
access
the
SACL, and not just any Windows user account? I have tried turning on
the
Access System Security privilege in ADAM, and that just does not work.

Thanks.
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"Lee Flight" wrote:

Hi

the problem with Access_Sys_Sec is what I was trying to explain
with regard to SACL. Are you saying that:

with the Windows account in the configuration Admin role
if you request a security descriptor with the SACL box unchecked
you do not get the DACL in the security editor UI?

Thanks
Lee Flight


"Jeffrey Harris" <1Jeffrey1.1Harris1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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As to your questions below, I am using LDP to access the security
descriptors, and even though the ADAM service account has been
added
to
the
Administrators group in the configuration partition, I still see
audit
failures relating to Read_Control and Access_Sys_Sec in the
security
log.










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