Re: Troubleshooting KDC Event 11



In news:44039036$0$25081$470ef3ce@xxxxxxxxxxx,
Ronald Nissley <dont@xxxxxxx> stated, which I commented on below:
I have a parent domain (call it mydomain.tld for this example), and a
child domain (childdomain.mydomain.tld). The child domain has a single
domain controller (childdc.childdomain.mydomain.tld). Forest/Domain
functional level is Windows 2003 Server. All DCs are running Windows
2003 Server SP1. In childdc's system event logs are recurring entries
like:

Event Type: Error
Event Source: KDC
Event Category: None
Event ID: 11
Date: 2/27/2006
Time: 2:03:20 PM
User: N/A
Computer: CHILDDC
Description:
There are multiple accounts with name cifs/childdc of type
DS_SERVICE_PRINCIPAL_NAME.

and

Event Type: Error
Event Source: KDC
Event Category: None
Event ID: 11
Date: 2/27/2006
Time: 1:13:45 PM
User: N/A
Computer: CHILDDC
Description:
There are multiple accounts with name cifs/CHILDDC of type
DS_SERVICE_PRINCIPAL_NAME.

Notice the only differences between the events is the case
(upper/lower) of the computer name in the event description, and
obviously, the Time.
I have already tried to follow the steps at
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321044 as well
as several other suggestions found on different support groups,
forums, etc. At this time, I've performed only "read-only" steps. I
haven't made any changes using adsiedit.msc, or other tools.

One point that I need clarity on is this: In the child domain, as
expected, a CHILDDC computer account is listed in the _Domain
Controllers_ OU/Container. In the parent domain, the identically named
CHILDDC computer account (apparently a 2nd computer account for the
same server) is listed in the _Member Servers_ OU/Container. Is this
normal? I'm trying to recall if I had joined CHILDDC to the parent
domain before running 'dcpromo' to create the child domain. If the
'Member Server' CHILDDC computer account in the parent domain is not
normal, is it safe to delete that account? In the Service Principal
Name list I generated, the dupes I located were:

dn: CN=CHILDDC,OU=Domain Controllers,DC=CHILDDOMAIN,DC=MYDOMAIN,DC=TLD
servicePrincipalName: HOST/CHILDDC

and

dn: CN=CHILDDC,OU=Member Servers,DC=MYDOMAIN,DC=TLD
servicePrincipalName: HOST/CHILDDC

If you can refer me to documentation or a well-summarized resolution
:-) for this, I'd appreciate it. Generally, the problem doesn't seem
to be affecting functionality/performance, but there are a few
(relatively minor) issues I'm trying to resolve. Tips or suggestions
are welcomed. You can reply to this topic (preferred) or send e-mail
to rnissley.gmail.com, replacing the first period with @.

TIA,

Ronald

If there is a duplicate account of a domain controller machine object (with
an obvious duplicate SID) that exists in another domain (that it's NOT a DC
for), and you may or may not have remembered (but it seems likely that's
what happened) previously having joined it to that domain prior to promoting
it to a DC for the other domain (child or not), then I would immediately
delete it. That may be causing this SPN duplicate error, which is what I
believe it's all about.

See here for more info:
http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=11&eventno=569&source=KDC&phase=1

You can also use LDP (from the Windows support Tools) to view the SID and
compare them, but from your description, I really think it's a dupe that
needs to be removed.

I hope that helps.
--
Ace

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