Re: Software Restrictions
- From: "Herb Martin" <news@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:36:15 -0600
"Kevin Wheeler" <kevin.wheeler@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uPLRNDeFGHA.516@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Herb,
>
> Ok, here are the results. When I denied Project Users Read & Apply
> Policy,
> my test user could access all restricted applications to include Project.
> It seems as though the first policy took affect and skipped the second
> policy. Then I removed the deny on Read in the first policy and then the
> user could not access any of the restricted applications to include
> Project.
> However, when the test user tries to access a restricted applications that
> he should not have access to, there are 2 pop ups. The first one is "THIS
> OPERATION HAS BEEN CANCELLED DUE TO RESTRICTION IN EFFECT ON THIS
> COMPUTER.
> PLEASE CONTACT YOUR SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR." The second message is "UNABLE
> TO
> RUN THIS COMMAND". However when the user tries to connect to Project, the
> application that he does have access to according to the second policy, he
> only gets that first pop up message. Any Ideals?
>
The above account just confused me so that I am unsure
how to respond.
(I know you understood what you mean but it is easy for
us to get lost in the "back references".)
Sorry.
--
Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP
Accelerated MCSE
http://www.LearnQuick.Com
[phone number on web site]
> Kevin
> "Herb Martin" <news@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:eWqBY1ZFGHA.3176@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> "Kevin Wheeler" <kevin_wheeler@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:u61IM7YFGHA.3200@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >I want to implement 2 GPOs to restrict certain software. It is a
>> >Windows
>> >2000 Domain with Windows 2000 Pro workstations.
>>
>>
>> > The first policy will restrict about 10 applications and this policy
> will
>> > be applied to the Domain Users security group.
>>
>> Since policies must be LINKED to Sites, Domain, or OUs you
>> would probably link such a policy to the DOMAIN and then
>> FILTER it using the Group "Domain Users".
>>
>> But there is probably no reason not to just use Everyone unless
>> you REALLY mean just domain users.
>>
>> This is basically going to apply to just about 'everyone' (who is
>> a real user) anyway.
>>
>> But you CAN set it in the User section of the GPO and have it
>> apply to (such) groups.
>>
>> > I created a second group called project users.
>>
>> Notice that policy for Domain Users (or everyone) is going to
>> apply to "Project Users" by default (unless you deny them "Apply_Policy"
>> permission.)
>>
>> > In the 1st GPO, project application is one of the restricted
> applications.
>> > The 2nd GPO will have the sames applications listed except Project, and
>> > this GPO will be applied to the Project Users security group.
>>
>> You will have to set the permission on the first to DENY this group
>> Apply, and ONLY grant this Group Apply on the 2nd.
>>
>> > In logic, this should work, however, when I added my test user to the
>> > Project Users group, he couldn't access the any of the restricted
>> > applications, by design, but he also couldn't acces the Project
>> > application.
>>
>> Because he is a Domain User -- your starting premise was wrong
>> and all of your logic was built on that: GPOs that apply to Domain
>> Users also apply to pretty much everyone unless you deny that.
>>
>> > Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? Does it have something to do
>> > with the test user being a member of both Domain Admins and Project
> Users?
>> > How can I get this to work?
>>
>> Yes. See above.
>>
>> 1st GPO: Allow Read & Apply for Domain Users
>> Deny (Read &) Apply for Project Users
>>
>> 2nd GPO: Allow Read & Apply for Project Users
>>
>> It's a straight forward permission problem.
>>
>> But do notice that you have left out other problems, e.g.,
>> Admins are also Domain Users.
>>
>> You might want a MORE SPECIFIC group for such policies or
>> you must Deny admins apply to keep them from being locked out
>> too.
>>
>> Think what is going to happen when the Admin tries to run any
>> other program to FIX something.
>>
>> --
>> Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP
>> Accelerated MCSE
>> http://www.LearnQuick.Com
>> [phone number on web site]
>>
>>
>
>
.
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