Re: Disaster Recovery Scenario Help
- From: "Jorge de Almeida Pinto" <SubstituteThisWithMyFullNameSeparatedByDots@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 18:16:16 +0100
the SID of the domain will be different because you install a new
DC/domain/forest. Although you will be able to recreate users, groups,
memberships etc. by importing lets say LDIF files, there is one problem
left.... permissions on objects...
Permissions on objects are controlled by an ACL with ACE. Each ACE is a SID
(not name as you might think!) with the configured permissions (read, write,
etc.)
recreating the domain and recreating all objects and repermission.... would
be MY LAST option I would think about as other options exist as I said
earlier
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Cheers,
# Jorge de Almeida Pinto #
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"JamFan" <JamFan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the response.. you have confirmed many of my beliefs.. I have
> been
> leaning towards simply creating a new forest and starting fresh if it got
> this bad. As long as I have the data and layouts of all groups and
> memberships. I have just heard so many nightmares in regards to AD
> restore...
> Any thoughts on the pros and cons of both scenarios? I would make one of
> the
> offsite DR boxes a DC that I could replicate to but I worry about
> corupting
> the production environment. Exchange restoration will still be possible
> if I
> do create a new forest right?
>
> "Jorge de Almeida Pinto" wrote:
>
>> 1...If the AD domain is lost (no DCs available), then how are you going
>> to
>> promote the DR servers into DCs? You need to existing DCs to promote
>> additional DCs
>>
>> 2...fresh install and restoring current backups of DCs is an option
>>
>> 3...exchange depends on AD. So if AD is gone and exchange is up and
>> running,
>> it will shout like hell because AD is gone. In that case restoring DCs
>> (going back in time) can cause different issues like disconnected
>> mailboxes
>> (because mailboxes exist on the exchange server, but the corresponding
>> user
>> does not yet exist in AD)
>>
>> 4...yes
>>
>> you might wanna take a look at:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=3EDA5A79-C99B-4DF9-823C-933FEBA08CFE
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> # Jorge de Almeida Pinto #
>> BLOG --> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/default.aspx
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>> "JamFan" <JamFan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> >I am creating a disaster recovery plan. The idea is that the building
>> >and
>> > network is a complete loss. I have 2 DR servers offsite. I just need
>> > some
>> > advice on a few AD related questions:
>> >
>> > 1. Are we better suited keeping the DR servers as standalone workgroup
>> > servers or is it better to make them member servers that can be
>> > upgraded
>> > to
>> > DC's with the domain SID?
>> >
>> > 2. Is such an upgrade possible or is an AD restore or fresh
>> > install the only options?
>> >
>> > 2. What are the exchange recovery ramifications to either scenario
>> > because
>> > I
>> > heard their are problems restoring exchange directly related to the
>> > domain
>> > SID?
>> >
>> > 3. Will the data on the backup tapes be accessible on the servers if
>> > they
>> > are not members of the domain?
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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