Re: User Rights at Client Seem to Vary
From: Herb Martin (news_at_LearnQuick.com)
Date: 03/22/05
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Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:23:40 -0600
"TonyM" <tonym@southernwoodwork.com> wrote in message
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> Hello all,
>
> I am currently in the process of switching our entire network from a
> Novell Netware 5.0 environment to a Windows 2003 Server active domain
> environment so if this question seems dumb, please bear with me.
Questions where you are trying to learn are
never really dumb, although they may be
naive -- but that should never be a criticism.
BTW, as a Novell Admin, do yourself a favor and
make a POINT of distinguishing between "Rights"
and "Permissions" in Windows.
Novell tends to use the terms synonymously, but
Microsoft makes a clean technical distinction between
them, for instance, NTFS File access is termed
Permissions. The ability to do (some) generic things
such as Change the System Time or Run as Batch File
are Rights.
> As this will be a somewhat lengthy process, involving some custom
> software upgrades, I will continue to run both servers until I am
> satisfied that the Windows server is 100%. I have started with moving
> the accounting department as the accounting software and databases run
> from the server. This is also a small department, there for a good place
> to start.
>
> My problem:
>
> I have 5 users, all working on Win2000 pro sp4 workstations with pentium
> processors and 256mb ram. These stations are running Novell client 4.9
> which the user uses to log onto the Novell server and the Windows
> domain. 3 of these stations log on to both servers without a hitch. All
> software works correctly and the users have access to both servers
> logging on with their domain profiles. The other 2 stations is where I
> am having problems. When the user logs on, using the domain profile, I
> get pop-ups requesting the MS Office install CD-ROM.
This is usually caused by an attempt (by the user or even
through an update from Office Update) to update or add new
features to Office.
Once in this state, you pretty much have to let Office see the
original CDRom or installation point to get it to stop (there
may be other ways, ask in an Office group but this is what I
know about such problems.)
> When I put the CD
> in the drive I get errors saying that the user does not have rights to
> modify the WIN.INI file. Nothing in the MS Office works, I get a lot of
> "Please reinstall" errors.
The Win.Ini file shouldn't even matter for modern Office
so I wonder if this is not something from an old version
or due to the Novell client (which has been known to cause
pretty strange problems).
> Also the accounting package appears to start
> when you click the icon but doesn't come up. It just runs as a service.
"Service" is a specific term, but I suspect you mean
"runs without displaying a GUI" which is an ENTIRELY
different result.
> If I log on to the station with the user's local profile all works
> correctly with no problems. If I log on to the station with my profile
> (local or domain) everything works correctly.
How about updating Office then? Both from the CDRom and
perhaps from the Office Update site to get everything straight?
> One of the problem users has full Admin rights (he is the owner) and the
> other user is a Power User. Both users are in the Domain Users group on
> the server. The other 3 users are Power Users in the Domain Users Group
Probably doesn't matter -- it is likely something in
their user profile that is marked to update office.
Perhaps they tried to "add a feature" to office.
> All 5 workstations were set up the same way. I basically logged on as
> the local user to create a new domain profile on the workstation then,
> as Admin, I copied the local profile to the Domain profile through the
> User Profiles in the System Properties dialog box.
I have never used nor liked that method. Preferring to
do it directly.
Perhaps the permissions were mangled on the profile
location -- either the Share (usually should be Full Control)
or the File (NTFS permissions.)
> I'm sure I missing something in the rights category but since all 5 were
> done the same way I'm stumped. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Go check the permissions (not rights) on both the Share
and the NTFS files.
Unless you have a specific reason to do otherwise, the
general case is that the user will have Full Control to
both for their own files.
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