Re: InterVideo XPack 2009 vs. Nvidia MCE 2005 XP Codec packs MVPs?

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Just exactly which 9500 were you pointing at? There are so many. I plan on
building another PC soon so nothing will go to waste. I just want MCE 2005
XP to work again. I will put the best card in the best PC. I'm beginning
to wonder if it could be my HDCP cable. There wouldn't be any other
problems, like it is for me, if the copy protection features of the cable
were malfunctioning. Or maybe it is just my LG 22" monitor. There are so
many variables.

Sometimes I miss MS-DOS 5...

"Curious" <spammenot@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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The issue is not how much power the card requires when using all of it's
capabilities. The first issue is can the card process high resolution
source and then how much power does it require to do it. As I indicated
before I feel that the 9500GT with it's much smaller die size can process
HD resolution source using less power then a 8500GT the fact that it is 3
time more powerful just means that it can also be used by gamers and when
all the power of the card is utilized by the gamers it will more power
then an 8500GT but I firmly believe that it will use less power when just
processing HD TV content.

<pERASEshea@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I ordered another video card but it's a cheap(?) ATI wDHCP. I've always
used ATI graphics since my first VGA card. If it needs more power than I
have I can always return it. I just want to watch MacroVision DVDs &
Live and Recorded TV.

THANKS for your help and wise counsel.

br. p

"dicko" <drwho@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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This link has a good comparison of the cards
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units#GeForce_8_.288xxx.29_series

It shows the 8500GT as 45W and the 9500GT as 50W

I'm just not sure the video card is your problem. The 8500 works well
for many people, me included.

I used to have all kinds of strange video problems when running XP
media center. Upgrading to Vista, and running the OEM codec solved
most all of my problems, but I seem to be in the minority when I say
VMC works better than MCE.

If possible, maybe you could download the Win 7 release candidate and
try that. I'm running it right now and I think its even better than
Vista. I dont know if your mobo is capable of handling it, and audio
drivers seems to be a weak link too (I'm using Vista audio drivers
with it).



On Thu, 28 May 2009 09:43:41 -0700, "Curious" <spammenot@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

According to the following the 8500GT chip itself can draw 40 watts.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080726181126AAqRHkP

Regretfully I could not find a good power comparison at comparable
graphics
load with the two chips since the 9500GT is so much more powerfull.
Here is
one link that may help.

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_9500_gt_performance/page2.asp

The recommended system power supply numbers include all of the power
required for a normal CPU and HDD drive configuration required for a
system
using the chip.

<pERASEshea@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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OK, where are you getting your information that the 9500 uses less
power
than the 8500?

The 9500 LOOKs a lot BIGGER than my 8500. My XFX GeForce 8500 GT
requires a 350 watt power supply MINIMUM, Mine is 375. I once came
across an ATI HDCP HeatSink card which required only 300 watt power
supply
but I hear ATI may be having prbs with HDCP.

My PC is loaded. I have 3 TB over 3 SATA HDs, DVD Lightscribe SATA
RW,
CD RW PATA & a 3.5" FD. Creative X-Fi and a modem. My CPU fan NEVER
ran
before (that I could hear).. Now it runs whenever the 8500 heats up.

I have no problem buying a different card IF that would fix it but I'm
really concerned about power requirements.

thanks

"Curious" <spammenot@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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According to the following link it should not be a problem since the
differences between V1 and V2 do appear to be physical slot dependent
but
are apparently software/driver dependent,

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080726181126AAqRHkP

<pERASEshea@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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It's PCI Express 2.0. Will this work in my 2006 PCs PCI Express
x16 v1
slot?


"Curious" <spammenot@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Have you considered a fanless 9500GT card instead? You can see
some in
the following link and the 9500GT is more powerful then the 8500GT
even
though they draw less power since they are made with a smaller die.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=9500gt+card&x=10&y=35

<pERASEshea@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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It's PCI Express x16 v1. That was / is getting REAL hard to find
these days. XFX GeForce 8500 GT. Driver Date 1/14/2009. Driver
Provider: NVIDIA. Driver Version: 6.14.11.8122 Digital Signer:
MS
HW Comp.. No Conflicts.

For MCE 2005 XP: NVIDIA Video Decoder (vendor). nvviddec.ax
(decoder
file name). 4020.223.0.0 (decoder version) MCE & MP10
Compatible.

Thanks for your help.




"dicko" <drwho@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Dont know what to tell you except that it sure never did anything
like
that when I used the Nvidia codec. The picture always looked like
it
came from my TV's tuner. I always had deinterlace problems with
my
ATI video card but your 8500 should be more than capable of
handlling
that task. In fact I have an 8500 card too and it works fine.

I would start looking at the video card driver. What kind of card
is
it? AGP or PCIe. AGP begins to run out of bus bandwidth.




On Wed, 27 May 2009 00:00:15 -0500, <pERASEshea@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

My MCE 2005 XP with the Nvidia looks most like "Not resized and
not
deinterlaced" except I'm not seeing double images. The more I
look
at this
site (thanks), I believe I am getting only 1 field with the other
one
blank
lines. Definitely a zipper effect. What to do about something
like
this?

Thanks for your replies!



"dicko" <drwho@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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This site has some pictures of deinterlace combing, though
usually
what you see isnt as bad as whats shown here.
http://www.100fps.com/

It really sounds like thats what your describing.














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