Re: HDMI input to Media Center



Pretty much all users (i.e. _paying_ customers) would agree with you.
However the music, movie, TV, and broadcasting industries are all addicted
to DRM and totally not interested in allowing this. (Never mind that DRM is
ultimately futile, to them 'fair use' is an obscenity.)

Hauppauge have made a Component video capture device specifically for this
scenario (HDMI is protected by HDCP making it much more difficult). See
http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/hd_pvr.html

This device however does not work within Media Center. Neither does the
Blackmagic card.

Some broadcasters like BSkyB here in the UK have already removed their
Component video output to prevent this (leaving only HDMI and analogue
standard resolution SCART).

In Japan Blu Ray recorders are extremely popular because you _can_ record
HDTV in Japan. In the US and Europe you cannot record HDTV (at least not in
any practical way) and hence Blu Ray recorders are practically non-existent.


On 11/11/08 14:26, in article
0592AAB5-ADE3-4CDB-88B7-5FB936CBF449@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Berndt Johansson"
<BerndtJohansson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Well, since everyone seems to be using different standards. Why not
supporting a set top box scenario and using a capture card rather than tuner
cards? With my limited technical experience with these types of systems. Just
hdmi in to the media center from the set top box and hdmi out to the screen.
How difficult could that be?

Of course I would like to get rid of the set top box, but in the meantime
when everyone tries to figure out what standards to use, then let us use the
boxes instead. Wouldn't you say that this could be a good interim solution?

/Berndt


"John Lockwood" wrote:

Not quite right.

Some countries using DVB-T are broadcasting HDTV in MPEG2, e.g. Australia
and this does work in Media Center. However the majority of the world is
using H.264 for HDTV and suck-ass brain-dead Microsoft removed H.264 at the
last minute from the recent Vista TV Pack update.

So it is certainly the case that there is _zero_ HDTV for Media Center in
the UK and I believe all of Europe. The removal of H.264 is even more of a
disaster when you realise that in some countries you can't even get STANDARD
resolution TV due to this mind numbingly stupid decision. Ireland, Norway,
and New Zealand for example uses H.264 for both Standard and High Definition
TV.

While most Americans are still using 'ye olde' MPEG2 even for HDTV (over
ATSC for example), DirectTV in the US does use H.264. It could well be
partly due to Microsoft removing H.264 support that the loooooong promised
support for DirecTV has failed to appear.


"Dumb and Dumber" - an autobiography of Microsoft.

On 11/11/08 09:08, in article hpiih41q8ht1456600cpag8s9ng4vsbjh6@xxxxxxx,
"Barb Bowman" <barb@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

right now the only HD through Media Center is in the USA through
Cable Card/Digital Cable Tuners and requires the purchase of a
complete pc from vendors who have their system approved by
CableLabs.

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:32:01 -0800, Berndt Johansson
<BerndtJohansson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi

I have a question about how I should connect a HD set top box (the motorola
VIP 1910) to my htpc running Vista Media Center. Using s-video or component
inputs into tuner cards will not retain the HD content. The set top box
have
hdmi output and it would be ideal to use a capture card that accepts hdmi
input, then oututs the signal again using hdmi out to the screen. An
example
of such capture card would be the Intensity cards from Blackmagic design
(http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/)

Does Microsoft have any guidelines in how to configure HD set top boxes
without loosing any quality?

At least in my region here in Europe we don't have any HD channels
distributed OTA. Every channel providers use their own set top box either
via
sattelite, IP or cable. So, do I need to retire my media center just
because
I would like to view HD channels? That's a real pain....

/Berndt
--

Barb Bowman
MS-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.com



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