Re: can't view HD (ATSC) Channels in XP Media Center

Since beyond TV works fine it shows that your tuner card and its drivers appear to be working fine.
If you can play a previously recorded HD program it shows that you decoder and graphics card are working fine.
Can you record a program using MC without watching it live and then play it back?
The MC center software itself may the cause of the problem.
Have you tried running Check Disk?
Have you tried the repair option from the installation CD?
"bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:D14736CC-89FA-4294-91F6-2BBB4CA90F48@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Curious, thanks for sticking with me on this problem, I really appreciate it.
I have tried EVERY other MC compatible decoder and none of them make a
difference.
Yes, I can view previously recorded material.
Yes, I can view DVD
No, this is WHY I took the comp to the shop in the first place.
Ok, I have some new information that I think is going to help greatly to
solve this.
I d/l Beyond TV to see if that would work.
It does. Completely and utterly beautifully. :) Now, when I installed the
software it asked me what the first connection was that I wanted to install.
So I used Antenna (Digital). Then it showed it was using the: ATI AVStream
Analog Capture.
Great. Now I had all of my OTA local channels installed.
Then it asked for my second connection. So I used Standard Cable. Then it
showed it was using: ATI BDA Digital Tuner. Then my cable channels were
installed and everything works GREAT!!!
So I think this is where the problem is. I know I have an ATI Unified
AVStream Driver because it shows up in my device Manager. But I have never
seen or heard of the ATI BDA Digital Tuner.
Is the ATI AVStream Analog Capture the same as the ATI Unified AVStream
Driver in my DM? If so, why can Beyond TV use it to find my locals when MD
can't? I'm hoping this new information helps because althgouh I LOVE the
Beyond TV software, I can't afford the $150 to buy it in 21 days when my
trial runs out! I still need to use MC. Hoep to hear back from you soon.
Thanks.

Mark

"Curious" wrote:

Settings mode uses different driver interface functions to your card then
live or recorded mode uses,
First I suggest that you try the other Cyber link decoder that is MC
compatible.
Can you play any previously recorded or sample recorded programs with MC?
Can you play a DVD using MC?
Did the problem first occur when you got your system back from the shop with
the different version of Power DVD installed?
"bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:1AB579FA-D740-4570-A170-A8023C6E35B0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Hello agaian curious, I hope your still with me : ) I DO have ALL > updates
> installed and I am running .NET Framework 3.0 and Update 3.
> I have both my Charter cable and my HD powered antenna connected to my
> card.
> When I run setup it finds both my cable and HD channels just fine. The
> signals for HD are geat.
> I can view cable channels with NO problem.
> When I try to view HD channels I recieve the following message:
> Application
> Failure. A critical Media Center process has failed. Please restart > your
> computer and try again. If the problem persists contact your > manufacturewr
> for further assisstance.
> I have ALL of the latest ATI drivers.
> I have shown you my codecs in previous posts.
> The codec I am using right now to watch cable is Cyberlink SAC Video
> Decoder
> CLVSD.ax 6.0.0.2212
> The weird thin gis, when I run the new Cyberlink Live program I can > view
> BOTH HD and cable in the settings interface!!!! What is going on????
>
>
>
>
> "Curious" wrote:
>
>> MC does not support QAM so the question in MC center setup is not
>> relevant
>> your answer should be analog. The question is really for MC use if >> you
>> were
>> using a digital STB to receive digital channels from your cable >> company
>> which you were then feeding to your analog tuner.
>> With decoder check which of the decoders that you listed do you have
>> selected as the preferred decoder?
>> Do you have any problem playing DVDs in MC?
>> Do you have any problem configuring and watching analog TV with your
>> cable
>> service connected to analog input connector?
>> Do you also have all of the updates to MCE 2005 installed?
>> "bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:08DF2AD3-19D4-4969-A87E-37C7E65CA6DC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Hello again all. Thanks for helping. I DO have the ATI TV Wonder 650
>> > Combo
>> > PCI-E installed. That is what's so frustrating. I HAVE HAD it >> > working
>> > before
>> > for almost 2 months. When I upgraded my hard drive and reinstalled >> > my
>> > WIndows
>> > XP Media Center 2005 is when I started receiving the problems. Also,
>> > reinstalling the cards, etc. I thought I detailed all of this >> > already.
>> > Curious, Media Center asks if you have a analog OR digital conection
>> > for
>> > cable. It then gives you an analog or digital channel line-up based >> > on
>> > your
>> > entry. That's why I think you have to have a digital subscription to
>> > cable
>> > in
>> > order to receive the QAM channels.
>> >
>> > "JW" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Curious,
>> >> I am afraid that you think baseman has the ATI 650 Pro PCI-E combo
>> >> tuner
>> >> and
>> >> it appears that he has the older 650 PRO Combo tuner instead
>> >> If this is the case then there are several problems first is that >> >> the
>> >> older
>> >> card is in fact a Hybrid tuner card and not a Combo tuner card in >> >> the
>> >> true
>> >> sense. This means that the two tuners can not be used concurrently
>> >> and
>> >> therefore MC will only allow one of them to be configured.
>> >> Also this would mean that in order to configure the ATSC tuner that
>> >> another
>> >> analog tuner would have to be configured on the system first since >> >> the
>> >> user
>> >> is running MCE2005 and not Vista.
>> >> The above problems do not exist with the 650 PRO PCI-E combo tuner
>> >> since
>> >> the
>> >> two tuners are independent of each other and appear that way to >> >> either
>> >> Vista
>> >> MC or to MCE2005.
>> >> It appears that the OP is best off to install the ATI TV >> >> application
>> >> and
>> >> use
>> >> to watch the OTA ATSC digital channels and use MC to watch the >> >> analog
>> >> channels from his cable connection.
>> >> "Curious >" <<spammenot@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:1FF9A750-2832-4BB8-8A7A-3325791044F9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > To receive your unencrypted QAM channels you need to use the ATI
>> >> > application you can not get them with MC?
>>
>> >> > "bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>> >> > message
>> >> > news:2F072E67-591B-4B90-8C9C-F980287941C7@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> Ok, so even if I don't subscribe to digital cable (only basic) >> >> >> OR
>> >> >> have
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> cable box (only the cable directly into my tuner card and a >> >> >> powered
>> >> >> antenna
>> >> >> into my ATSC input connector for hD channels) I can STILL >> >> >> receive
>> >> >> Qam
>> >> >> digital
>> >> >> cable channels?
>> >> >> Then, what I thought was right, I don't NEED to have CCC >> >> >> installed
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> order
>> >> >> to view my chanells. That makes sense because I never HAVE had >> >> >> CCC
>> >> >> running
>> >> >> when both my cable and HD channels were working, just Media >> >> >> Center.
>> >> >> So, what you reccommend I use to VIEW my cable digital qam
>> >> >> channels,
>> >> >> if
>> >> >> possible. I do have Titan TV (just not installed) also I d/l
>> >> >> Cyberlink
>> >> >> Live
>> >> >> (it's new) today. Thank you for your continued help : )
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Curious" wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> You receive cable which contains both analog and digital cable
>> >> >>> signals.
>> >> >>> It
>> >> >>> is the tuner or STB which determines if you get analog or >> >> >>> digital
>> >> >>> channels
>> >> >>> or both.
>> >> >>> The CCC control center controls the output from your ATI >> >> >>> graphics
>> >> >>> card
>> >> >>> to
>> >> >>> your TV. It has nothing to do with the inputs from your Combo
>> >> >>> tuner
>> >> >>> card.
>> >> >>> There are no ATSC digital channels available over cable only >> >> >>> QAM
>> >> >>> digital
>> >> >>> channels.
>> >> >>> To receive ATSC you must have an antenna connected to the >> >> >>> ATSC/QAM
>> >> >>> input
>> >> >>> connector on your Combo card.
>> >> >>> "bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>> >> >>> message
>> >> >>> news:20A67415-B548-4D56-9CAA-988BA4C9A003@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >>> > First off, I do not receive digital cable so I don't know if >> >> >>> > it
>> >> >>> > is
>> >> >>> > possible
>> >> >>> > to receive digital cable channels? Also, I'm not sure if >> >> >>> > Titan
>> >> >>> > TV
>> >> >>> > is
>> >> >>> > the
>> >> >>> > SAME
>> >> >>> > as the Catalst Control Center or if it is seperate software.
>> >> >>> > That
>> >> >>> > is
>> >> >>> > why
>> >> >>> > I'm
>> >> >>> > trying to find someone who really KNOWS the ATI TV/Video >> >> >>> > cards
>> >> >>> > and
>> >> >>> > how
>> >> >>> > they
>> >> >>> > are setup, how they function etc. ATI is VERY confusing and
>> >> >>> > frustrating as
>> >> >>> > to
>> >> >>> > how to install, which software/drviers to use and the >> >> >>> > customer
>> >> >>> > service
>> >> >>> > is
>> >> >>> > absolutely ATROCIOUS!
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > "Curious" wrote:
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >> If the TitanTV application is the one that came with the >> >> >>> >> card
>> >> >>> >> then
>> >> >>> >> yes
>> >> >>> >> that
>> >> >>> >> is what I want you to install and try.
>> >> >>> >> It should also allow you to receive clearQAM HD channels >> >> >>> >> from
>> >> >>> >> you
>> >> >>> >> cable
>> >> >>> >> provider.
>> >> >>> >> Which you may want to do instead of using an antenna >> >> >>> >> connected
>> >> >>> >> to
>> >> >>> >> the
>> >> >>> >> ATSC
>> >> >>> >> OTA tuner on your 1600.
>> >> >>> >> "bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote >> >> >>> >> in
>> >> >>> >> message
>> >> >>> >> news:1E16A046-7079-481A-99F0-91589FBEAC72@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >>> >> > Curious, that is why I am frustrated. I AM using the >> >> >>> >> > latest
>> >> >>> >> > tuner
>> >> >>> >> > drivers
>> >> >>> >> > from the ATI website. Do you think I should install the >> >> >>> >> > Titan
>> >> >>> >> > TV
>> >> >>> >> > application
>> >> >>> >> > and try that? I've never used it before so I'm not >> >> >>> >> > familiar
>> >> >>> >> > with
>> >> >>> >> > how it
>> >> >>> >> > works. Thanks for your help again.
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > "Curious" wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> I realized that it is the latest drivers for you tuner >> >> >>> >> >> that
>> >> >>> >> >> you
>> >> >>> >> >> need
>> >> >>> >> >> to
>> >> >>> >> >> install and not the latest drivers for your graphics >> >> >>> >> >> card.
>> >> >>> >> >> Regretfully I do not have any other ideas if the ATI TV
>> >> >>> >> >> application
>> >> >>> >> >> does
>> >> >>> >> >> not
>> >> >>> >> >> work independently of the MC TV application.
>> >> >>> >> >> "bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> >>> >> >> wrote
>> >> >>> >> >> in
>> >> >>> >> >> message
>> >> >>> >> >> news:8A52B9C0-B91D-4FF1-B282-AD4BBADE3EC9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >>> >> >> >I do have the Titan TV installer in my ATI folder but >> >> >>> >> >> >I'm
>> >> >>> >> >> >afraid
>> >> >>> >> >> >to
>> >> >>> >> >> >install
>> >> >>> >> >> > it! I have NOT had good luck using ATI CCC before (it >> >> >>> >> >> > has
>> >> >>> >> >> > never
>> >> >>> >> >> > worked
>> >> >>> >> >> > and
>> >> >>> >> >> > always screwed up my viewing in MC) so I haven't tried
>> >> >>> >> >> > that
>> >> >>> >> >> > either.
>> >> >>> >> >> > I
>> >> >>> >> >> > think
>> >> >>> >> >> > every time I had to install the CCC it would install or
>> >> >>> >> >> > reinstall
>> >> >>> >> >> > drivers
>> >> >>> >> >> > I
>> >> >>> >> >> > either had or didn't need (i.e. WMD drivers and such) I
>> >> >>> >> >> > never
>> >> >>> >> >> > used
>> >> >>> >> >> > to
>> >> >>> >> >> > need
>> >> >>> >> >> > it
>> >> >>> >> >> > though, when both my HD and cable channels worked. I >> >> >>> >> >> > could
>> >> >>> >> >> > always
>> >> >>> >> >> > view
>> >> >>> >> >> > them
>> >> >>> >> >> > in MC.
>> >> >>> >> >> > Yes, my local channels are listed starting with 1000, >> >> >>> >> >> > they
>> >> >>> >> >> > just
>> >> >>> >> >> > show
>> >> >>> >> >> > a
>> >> >>> >> >> > black screen when I try to tune to them and then I get >> >> >>> >> >> > the
>> >> >>> >> >> > Application
>> >> >>> >> >> > error.
>> >> >>> >> >> > Also, yes I am using the 8.7 Catalyst drivers.
>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> > "Curious" wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> Do you also have the ATI TV package installed and can >> >> >>> >> >> >> you
>> >> >>> >> >> >> watch
>> >> >>> >> >> >> both
>> >> >>> >> >> >> OTA
>> >> >>> >> >> >> analog and OTA digital channels using their app when >> >> >>> >> >> >> you
>> >> >>> >> >> >> have
>> >> >>> >> >> >> an
>> >> >>> >> >> >> antenna
>> >> >>> >> >> >> connected to both coax inputs?
>> >> >>> >> >> >> Do your local OTA digital channels show up starting >> >> >>> >> >> >> with
>> >> >>> >> >> >> channel
>> >> >>> >> >> >> number
>> >> >>> >> >> >> 1000
>> >> >>> >> >> >> in MC?
>> >> >>> >> >> >> What release of the ATI CCC drivers are you currently
>> >> >>> >> >> >> using?
>> >> >>> >> >> >> I
>> >> >>> >> >> >> believe
>> >> >>> >> >> >> 8.7
>> >> >>> >> >> >> is the latest release.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> "bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> wrote
>> >> >>> >> >> >> in
>> >> >>> >> >> >> message
>> >> >>> >> >> >> news:9DE954E1-249B-4F3C-87A4-E0117B9F0834@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > Thanks for responding. I AM watching cable TV though
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > (whcih
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > was
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > also
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > detected
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > by setup) so I think my decoder is ok. I have always
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > used
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > Power
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > DVD
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > decoder.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > I was using 5.0 which was standard on my Dell and >> >> >>> >> >> >> > then
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > when I
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > got
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > it

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