Re: can't view HD (ATSC) Channels in XP Media Center

Settings mode uses different driver interface functions to your card then live or recorded mode uses,
First I suggest that you try the other Cyber link decoder that is MC compatible.
Can you play any previously recorded or sample recorded programs with MC?
Can you play a DVD using MC?
Did the problem first occur when you got your system back from the shop with the different version of Power DVD installed?
"bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:1AB579FA-D740-4570-A170-A8023C6E35B0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hello agaian curious, I hope your still with me : ) I DO have ALL updates
installed and I am running .NET Framework 3.0 and Update 3.
I have both my Charter cable and my HD powered antenna connected to my card.
When I run setup it finds both my cable and HD channels just fine. The
signals for HD are geat.
I can view cable channels with NO problem.
When I try to view HD channels I recieve the following message: Application
Failure. A critical Media Center process has failed. Please restart your
computer and try again. If the problem persists contact your manufacturewr
for further assisstance.
I have ALL of the latest ATI drivers.
I have shown you my codecs in previous posts.
The codec I am using right now to watch cable is Cyberlink SAC Video Decoder
CLVSD.ax 6.0.0.2212
The weird thin gis, when I run the new Cyberlink Live program I can view
BOTH HD and cable in the settings interface!!!! What is going on????




"Curious" wrote:

MC does not support QAM so the question in MC center setup is not relevant
your answer should be analog. The question is really for MC use if you were
using a digital STB to receive digital channels from your cable company
which you were then feeding to your analog tuner.
With decoder check which of the decoders that you listed do you have
selected as the preferred decoder?
Do you have any problem playing DVDs in MC?
Do you have any problem configuring and watching analog TV with your cable
service connected to analog input connector?
Do you also have all of the updates to MCE 2005 installed?
"bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:08DF2AD3-19D4-4969-A87E-37C7E65CA6DC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Hello again all. Thanks for helping. I DO have the ATI TV Wonder 650 > Combo
> PCI-E installed. That is what's so frustrating. I HAVE HAD it working
> before
> for almost 2 months. When I upgraded my hard drive and reinstalled my
> WIndows
> XP Media Center 2005 is when I started receiving the problems. Also,
> reinstalling the cards, etc. I thought I detailed all of this already.
> Curious, Media Center asks if you have a analog OR digital conection > for
> cable. It then gives you an analog or digital channel line-up based on
> your
> entry. That's why I think you have to have a digital subscription to > cable
> in
> order to receive the QAM channels.
>
> "JW" wrote:
>
>> Curious,
>> I am afraid that you think baseman has the ATI 650 Pro PCI-E combo >> tuner
>> and
>> it appears that he has the older 650 PRO Combo tuner instead
>> If this is the case then there are several problems first is that the
>> older
>> card is in fact a Hybrid tuner card and not a Combo tuner card in the
>> true
>> sense. This means that the two tuners can not be used concurrently >> and
>> therefore MC will only allow one of them to be configured.
>> Also this would mean that in order to configure the ATSC tuner that
>> another
>> analog tuner would have to be configured on the system first since the
>> user
>> is running MCE2005 and not Vista.
>> The above problems do not exist with the 650 PRO PCI-E combo tuner >> since
>> the
>> two tuners are independent of each other and appear that way to either
>> Vista
>> MC or to MCE2005.
>> It appears that the OP is best off to install the ATI TV application >> and
>> use
>> to watch the OTA ATSC digital channels and use MC to watch the analog
>> channels from his cable connection.
>> "Curious >" <<spammenot@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:1FF9A750-2832-4BB8-8A7A-3325791044F9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > To receive your unencrypted QAM channels you need to use the ATI
>> > application you can not get them with MC?

>> > "bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in >> > message
>> > news:2F072E67-591B-4B90-8C9C-F980287941C7@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> Ok, so even if I don't subscribe to digital cable (only basic) OR >> >> have
>> >> a
>> >> cable box (only the cable directly into my tuner card and a powered
>> >> antenna
>> >> into my ATSC input connector for hD channels) I can STILL receive >> >> Qam
>> >> digital
>> >> cable channels?
>> >> Then, what I thought was right, I don't NEED to have CCC installed >> >> in
>> >> order
>> >> to view my chanells. That makes sense because I never HAVE had CCC
>> >> running
>> >> when both my cable and HD channels were working, just Media Center.
>> >> So, what you reccommend I use to VIEW my cable digital qam >> >> channels,
>> >> if
>> >> possible. I do have Titan TV (just not installed) also I d/l >> >> Cyberlink
>> >> Live
>> >> (it's new) today. Thank you for your continued help : )
>> >>
>> >> "Curious" wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> You receive cable which contains both analog and digital cable
>> >>> signals.
>> >>> It
>> >>> is the tuner or STB which determines if you get analog or digital
>> >>> channels
>> >>> or both.
>> >>> The CCC control center controls the output from your ATI graphics
>> >>> card
>> >>> to
>> >>> your TV. It has nothing to do with the inputs from your Combo >> >>> tuner
>> >>> card.
>> >>> There are no ATSC digital channels available over cable only QAM
>> >>> digital
>> >>> channels.
>> >>> To receive ATSC you must have an antenna connected to the ATSC/QAM
>> >>> input
>> >>> connector on your Combo card.
>> >>> "bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>> >>> message
>> >>> news:20A67415-B548-4D56-9CAA-988BA4C9A003@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>> > First off, I do not receive digital cable so I don't know if it >> >>> > is
>> >>> > possible
>> >>> > to receive digital cable channels? Also, I'm not sure if Titan >> >>> > TV
>> >>> > is
>> >>> > the
>> >>> > SAME
>> >>> > as the Catalst Control Center or if it is seperate software. >> >>> > That
>> >>> > is
>> >>> > why
>> >>> > I'm
>> >>> > trying to find someone who really KNOWS the ATI TV/Video cards >> >>> > and
>> >>> > how
>> >>> > they
>> >>> > are setup, how they function etc. ATI is VERY confusing and
>> >>> > frustrating as
>> >>> > to
>> >>> > how to install, which software/drviers to use and the customer
>> >>> > service
>> >>> > is
>> >>> > absolutely ATROCIOUS!
>> >>> >
>> >>> > "Curious" wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> If the TitanTV application is the one that came with the card >> >>> >> then
>> >>> >> yes
>> >>> >> that
>> >>> >> is what I want you to install and try.
>> >>> >> It should also allow you to receive clearQAM HD channels from >> >>> >> you
>> >>> >> cable
>> >>> >> provider.
>> >>> >> Which you may want to do instead of using an antenna connected >> >>> >> to
>> >>> >> the
>> >>> >> ATSC
>> >>> >> OTA tuner on your 1600.
>> >>> >> "bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>> >>> >> message
>> >>> >> news:1E16A046-7079-481A-99F0-91589FBEAC72@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>> >> > Curious, that is why I am frustrated. I AM using the latest
>> >>> >> > tuner
>> >>> >> > drivers
>> >>> >> > from the ATI website. Do you think I should install the Titan >> >>> >> > TV
>> >>> >> > application
>> >>> >> > and try that? I've never used it before so I'm not familiar >> >>> >> > with
>> >>> >> > how it
>> >>> >> > works. Thanks for your help again.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > "Curious" wrote:
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >> I realized that it is the latest drivers for you tuner that >> >>> >> >> you
>> >>> >> >> need
>> >>> >> >> to
>> >>> >> >> install and not the latest drivers for your graphics card.
>> >>> >> >> Regretfully I do not have any other ideas if the ATI TV
>> >>> >> >> application
>> >>> >> >> does
>> >>> >> >> not
>> >>> >> >> work independently of the MC TV application.
>> >>> >> >> "bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote >> >>> >> >> in
>> >>> >> >> message
>> >>> >> >> news:8A52B9C0-B91D-4FF1-B282-AD4BBADE3EC9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>> >> >> >I do have the Titan TV installer in my ATI folder but I'm
>> >>> >> >> >afraid
>> >>> >> >> >to
>> >>> >> >> >install
>> >>> >> >> > it! I have NOT had good luck using ATI CCC before (it has
>> >>> >> >> > never
>> >>> >> >> > worked
>> >>> >> >> > and
>> >>> >> >> > always screwed up my viewing in MC) so I haven't tried >> >>> >> >> > that
>> >>> >> >> > either.
>> >>> >> >> > I
>> >>> >> >> > think
>> >>> >> >> > every time I had to install the CCC it would install or
>> >>> >> >> > reinstall
>> >>> >> >> > drivers
>> >>> >> >> > I
>> >>> >> >> > either had or didn't need (i.e. WMD drivers and such) I >> >>> >> >> > never
>> >>> >> >> > used
>> >>> >> >> > to
>> >>> >> >> > need
>> >>> >> >> > it
>> >>> >> >> > though, when both my HD and cable channels worked. I could
>> >>> >> >> > always
>> >>> >> >> > view
>> >>> >> >> > them
>> >>> >> >> > in MC.
>> >>> >> >> > Yes, my local channels are listed starting with 1000, they
>> >>> >> >> > just
>> >>> >> >> > show
>> >>> >> >> > a
>> >>> >> >> > black screen when I try to tune to them and then I get the
>> >>> >> >> > Application
>> >>> >> >> > error.
>> >>> >> >> > Also, yes I am using the 8.7 Catalyst drivers.
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > "Curious" wrote:
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> Do you also have the ATI TV package installed and can you
>> >>> >> >> >> watch
>> >>> >> >> >> both
>> >>> >> >> >> OTA
>> >>> >> >> >> analog and OTA digital channels using their app when you
>> >>> >> >> >> have
>> >>> >> >> >> an
>> >>> >> >> >> antenna
>> >>> >> >> >> connected to both coax inputs?
>> >>> >> >> >> Do your local OTA digital channels show up starting with
>> >>> >> >> >> channel
>> >>> >> >> >> number
>> >>> >> >> >> 1000
>> >>> >> >> >> in MC?
>> >>> >> >> >> What release of the ATI CCC drivers are you currently >> >>> >> >> >> using?
>> >>> >> >> >> I
>> >>> >> >> >> believe
>> >>> >> >> >> 8.7
>> >>> >> >> >> is the latest release.
>> >>> >> >> >> "bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >>> >> >> >> wrote
>> >>> >> >> >> in
>> >>> >> >> >> message
>> >>> >> >> >> news:9DE954E1-249B-4F3C-87A4-E0117B9F0834@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>> >> >> >> > Thanks for responding. I AM watching cable TV though
>> >>> >> >> >> > (whcih
>> >>> >> >> >> > was
>> >>> >> >> >> > also
>> >>> >> >> >> > detected
>> >>> >> >> >> > by setup) so I think my decoder is ok. I have always >> >>> >> >> >> > used
>> >>> >> >> >> > Power
>> >>> >> >> >> > DVD
>> >>> >> >> >> > decoder.
>> >>> >> >> >> > I was using 5.0 which was standard on my Dell and then
>> >>> >> >> >> > when I
>> >>> >> >> >> > got
>> >>> >> >> >> > it
>> >>> >> >> >> > back
>> >>> >> >> >> > from the shop he had installed 7.0 which I obviously >> >>> >> >> >> > like
>> >>> >> >> >> > the
>> >>> >> >> >> > software
>> >>> >> >> >> > better. 5.0 wasn't working either when I had it in the
>> >>> >> >> >> > shop.
>> >>> >> >> >> > Also,
>> >>> >> >> >> > When
>> >>> >> >> >> > I
>> >>> >> >> >> > run
>> >>> >> >> >> > Windows Decoder Checkup this is what I get:
>> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> > ffdshow Vieo Decoder: MP10 Com-NO ffdshow.ax >> >>> >> >> >> > 1.0.3.1418
>> >>> >> >> >> > MCE
>> >>> >> >> >> > Comp-NO
>> >>> >> >> >> > Cyberlink Video/SP Dec: " " -YES CLVsd.ax
>> >>> >> >> >> > 6.0.0.3614
>> >>> >> >> >> > "
>> >>> >> >> >> > "
>> >>> >> >> >> > -YES
>> >>> >> >> >> > GPL MPEG-1/2 Decoder: " " -NO GplMpgDec.ax
>> >>> >> >> >> > 0.1.2.0 "
>> >>> >> >> >> > "
>> >>> >> >> >> > -NO
>> >>> >> >> >> > ffdshow raw video filter " " -NO ffdshow.ax
>> >>> >> >> >> > 1.0.3.1418
>> >>> >> >> >> > "
>> >>> >> >> >> > " -NO
>> >>> >> >> >> > PP Video Decoder " " -NO
>> >>> >> >> >> > ppGenericVSD.ax
>> >>> >> >> >> > 6.0.0.33.13
>> >>> >> >> >> > "
>> >>> >> >> >> > -YES
>> >>> >> >> >> > Cyberlink SAC Video Decoder " -YES CLVSD.ax
>> >>> >> >> >> > 6.0.0.2122
>> >>> >> >> >> > "
>> >>> >> >> >> > "
>> >>> >> >> >> > -YES
>> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> > I find it weird that no ATI decoders are listed (they >> >>> >> >> >> > were
>> >>> >> >> >> > before
>> >>> >> >> >> > I
>> >>> >> >> >> > upgraded
>> >>> >> >> >> > my hard drive) but then again they always showed not
>> >>> >> >> >> > compatible
>> >>> >> >> >> > as
>> >>> >> >> >> > well. I
>> >>> >> >> >> > am
>> >>> >> >> >> > running a ATI Radeon 2400 PRO for my video card and the >> >>> >> >> >> > TV
>> >>> >> >> >> > card
>> >>> >> >> >> > again
>> >>> >> >> >> > is a
>> >>> >> >> >> > ATI TV Wonder 650 Combo with updated drivers. Any other
>> >>> >> >> >> > suggestions
>> >>> >> >> >> > would
>> >>> >> >> >> > be
>> >>> >> >> >> > MUCH appreciated.
>> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> > Any other suggestions are appreciated.
>> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> > "Curious" wrote:
>> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> >> MCE 2005 runs on top of XP 2002. If you got to MC UI >> >>> >> >> >> >> and

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