Re: can't view HD (ATSC) Channels in XP Media Center

MC does not support QAM so the question in MC center setup is not relevant
your answer should be analog. The question is really for MC use if you were
using a digital STB to receive digital channels from your cable company
which you were then feeding to your analog tuner.
With decoder check which of the decoders that you listed do you have
selected as the preferred decoder?
Do you have any problem playing DVDs in MC?
Do you have any problem configuring and watching analog TV with your cable
service connected to analog input connector?
Do you also have all of the updates to MCE 2005 installed?
"bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:08DF2AD3-19D4-4969-A87E-37C7E65CA6DC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hello again all. Thanks for helping. I DO have the ATI TV Wonder 650 Combo
PCI-E installed. That is what's so frustrating. I HAVE HAD it working before
for almost 2 months. When I upgraded my hard drive and reinstalled my WIndows
XP Media Center 2005 is when I started receiving the problems. Also,
reinstalling the cards, etc. I thought I detailed all of this already.
Curious, Media Center asks if you have a analog OR digital conection for
cable. It then gives you an analog or digital channel line-up based on your
entry. That's why I think you have to have a digital subscription to cable in
order to receive the QAM channels.

"JW" wrote:

Curious,
I am afraid that you think baseman has the ATI 650 Pro PCI-E combo tuner and
it appears that he has the older 650 PRO Combo tuner instead
If this is the case then there are several problems first is that the older
card is in fact a Hybrid tuner card and not a Combo tuner card in the true
sense. This means that the two tuners can not be used concurrently and
therefore MC will only allow one of them to be configured.
Also this would mean that in order to configure the ATSC tuner that another
analog tuner would have to be configured on the system first since the user
is running MCE2005 and not Vista.
The above problems do not exist with the 650 PRO PCI-E combo tuner since the
two tuners are independent of each other and appear that way to either Vista
MC or to MCE2005.
It appears that the OP is best off to install the ATI TV application and use
to watch the OTA ATSC digital channels and use MC to watch the analog
channels from his cable connection.
"Curious >" <<spammenot@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:1FF9A750-2832-4BB8-8A7A-3325791044F9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To receive your unencrypted QAM channels you need to use the ATI
> application you can not get them with MC?

> "bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:2F072E67-591B-4B90-8C9C-F980287941C7@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Ok, so even if I don't subscribe to digital cable (only basic) OR have >> a
>> cable box (only the cable directly into my tuner card and a powered
>> antenna
>> into my ATSC input connector for hD channels) I can STILL receive Qam
>> digital
>> cable channels?
>> Then, what I thought was right, I don't NEED to have CCC installed in
>> order
>> to view my chanells. That makes sense because I never HAVE had CCC
>> running
>> when both my cable and HD channels were working, just Media Center.
>> So, what you reccommend I use to VIEW my cable digital qam channels, >> if
>> possible. I do have Titan TV (just not installed) also I d/l Cyberlink
>> Live
>> (it's new) today. Thank you for your continued help : )
>>
>> "Curious" wrote:
>>
>>> You receive cable which contains both analog and digital cable >>> signals.
>>> It
>>> is the tuner or STB which determines if you get analog or digital
>>> channels
>>> or both.
>>> The CCC control center controls the output from your ATI graphics >>> card
>>> to
>>> your TV. It has nothing to do with the inputs from your Combo tuner
>>> card.
>>> There are no ATSC digital channels available over cable only QAM >>> digital
>>> channels.
>>> To receive ATSC you must have an antenna connected to the ATSC/QAM >>> input
>>> connector on your Combo card.
>>> "bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in >>> message
>>> news:20A67415-B548-4D56-9CAA-988BA4C9A003@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > First off, I do not receive digital cable so I don't know if it is
>>> > possible
>>> > to receive digital cable channels? Also, I'm not sure if Titan TV >>> > is
>>> > the
>>> > SAME
>>> > as the Catalst Control Center or if it is seperate software. That >>> > is
>>> > why
>>> > I'm
>>> > trying to find someone who really KNOWS the ATI TV/Video cards and >>> > how
>>> > they
>>> > are setup, how they function etc. ATI is VERY confusing and
>>> > frustrating as
>>> > to
>>> > how to install, which software/drviers to use and the customer >>> > service
>>> > is
>>> > absolutely ATROCIOUS!
>>> >
>>> > "Curious" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> If the TitanTV application is the one that came with the card then
>>> >> yes
>>> >> that
>>> >> is what I want you to install and try.
>>> >> It should also allow you to receive clearQAM HD channels from you
>>> >> cable
>>> >> provider.
>>> >> Which you may want to do instead of using an antenna connected to >>> >> the
>>> >> ATSC
>>> >> OTA tuner on your 1600.
>>> >> "bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>>> >> message
>>> >> news:1E16A046-7079-481A-99F0-91589FBEAC72@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> > Curious, that is why I am frustrated. I AM using the latest >>> >> > tuner
>>> >> > drivers
>>> >> > from the ATI website. Do you think I should install the Titan TV
>>> >> > application
>>> >> > and try that? I've never used it before so I'm not familiar with
>>> >> > how it
>>> >> > works. Thanks for your help again.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "Curious" wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> I realized that it is the latest drivers for you tuner that you
>>> >> >> need
>>> >> >> to
>>> >> >> install and not the latest drivers for your graphics card.
>>> >> >> Regretfully I do not have any other ideas if the ATI TV
>>> >> >> application
>>> >> >> does
>>> >> >> not
>>> >> >> work independently of the MC TV application.
>>> >> >> "bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>>> >> >> message
>>> >> >> news:8A52B9C0-B91D-4FF1-B282-AD4BBADE3EC9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> >> >I do have the Titan TV installer in my ATI folder but I'm >>> >> >> >afraid
>>> >> >> >to
>>> >> >> >install
>>> >> >> > it! I have NOT had good luck using ATI CCC before (it has >>> >> >> > never
>>> >> >> > worked
>>> >> >> > and
>>> >> >> > always screwed up my viewing in MC) so I haven't tried that
>>> >> >> > either.
>>> >> >> > I
>>> >> >> > think
>>> >> >> > every time I had to install the CCC it would install or
>>> >> >> > reinstall
>>> >> >> > drivers
>>> >> >> > I
>>> >> >> > either had or didn't need (i.e. WMD drivers and such) I never
>>> >> >> > used
>>> >> >> > to
>>> >> >> > need
>>> >> >> > it
>>> >> >> > though, when both my HD and cable channels worked. I could
>>> >> >> > always
>>> >> >> > view
>>> >> >> > them
>>> >> >> > in MC.
>>> >> >> > Yes, my local channels are listed starting with 1000, they >>> >> >> > just
>>> >> >> > show
>>> >> >> > a
>>> >> >> > black screen when I try to tune to them and then I get the
>>> >> >> > Application
>>> >> >> > error.
>>> >> >> > Also, yes I am using the 8.7 Catalyst drivers.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > "Curious" wrote:
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> Do you also have the ATI TV package installed and can you >>> >> >> >> watch
>>> >> >> >> both
>>> >> >> >> OTA
>>> >> >> >> analog and OTA digital channels using their app when you >>> >> >> >> have
>>> >> >> >> an
>>> >> >> >> antenna
>>> >> >> >> connected to both coax inputs?
>>> >> >> >> Do your local OTA digital channels show up starting with
>>> >> >> >> channel
>>> >> >> >> number
>>> >> >> >> 1000
>>> >> >> >> in MC?
>>> >> >> >> What release of the ATI CCC drivers are you currently using? >>> >> >> >> I
>>> >> >> >> believe
>>> >> >> >> 8.7
>>> >> >> >> is the latest release.
>>> >> >> >> "bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote >>> >> >> >> in
>>> >> >> >> message
>>> >> >> >> news:9DE954E1-249B-4F3C-87A4-E0117B9F0834@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> >> >> > Thanks for responding. I AM watching cable TV though >>> >> >> >> > (whcih
>>> >> >> >> > was
>>> >> >> >> > also
>>> >> >> >> > detected
>>> >> >> >> > by setup) so I think my decoder is ok. I have always used
>>> >> >> >> > Power
>>> >> >> >> > DVD
>>> >> >> >> > decoder.
>>> >> >> >> > I was using 5.0 which was standard on my Dell and then >>> >> >> >> > when I
>>> >> >> >> > got
>>> >> >> >> > it
>>> >> >> >> > back
>>> >> >> >> > from the shop he had installed 7.0 which I obviously like >>> >> >> >> > the
>>> >> >> >> > software
>>> >> >> >> > better. 5.0 wasn't working either when I had it in the >>> >> >> >> > shop.
>>> >> >> >> > Also,
>>> >> >> >> > When
>>> >> >> >> > I
>>> >> >> >> > run
>>> >> >> >> > Windows Decoder Checkup this is what I get:
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > ffdshow Vieo Decoder: MP10 Com-NO ffdshow.ax 1.0.3.1418 >>> >> >> >> > MCE
>>> >> >> >> > Comp-NO
>>> >> >> >> > Cyberlink Video/SP Dec: " " -YES CLVsd.ax
>>> >> >> >> > 6.0.0.3614
>>> >> >> >> > "
>>> >> >> >> > "
>>> >> >> >> > -YES
>>> >> >> >> > GPL MPEG-1/2 Decoder: " " -NO GplMpgDec.ax
>>> >> >> >> > 0.1.2.0 "
>>> >> >> >> > "
>>> >> >> >> > -NO
>>> >> >> >> > ffdshow raw video filter " " -NO ffdshow.ax
>>> >> >> >> > 1.0.3.1418
>>> >> >> >> > "
>>> >> >> >> > " -NO
>>> >> >> >> > PP Video Decoder " " -NO >>> >> >> >> > ppGenericVSD.ax
>>> >> >> >> > 6.0.0.33.13
>>> >> >> >> > "
>>> >> >> >> > -YES
>>> >> >> >> > Cyberlink SAC Video Decoder " -YES CLVSD.ax >>> >> >> >> > 6.0.0.2122
>>> >> >> >> > "
>>> >> >> >> > "
>>> >> >> >> > -YES
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > I find it weird that no ATI decoders are listed (they were
>>> >> >> >> > before
>>> >> >> >> > I
>>> >> >> >> > upgraded
>>> >> >> >> > my hard drive) but then again they always showed not
>>> >> >> >> > compatible
>>> >> >> >> > as
>>> >> >> >> > well. I
>>> >> >> >> > am
>>> >> >> >> > running a ATI Radeon 2400 PRO for my video card and the TV
>>> >> >> >> > card
>>> >> >> >> > again
>>> >> >> >> > is a
>>> >> >> >> > ATI TV Wonder 650 Combo with updated drivers. Any other
>>> >> >> >> > suggestions
>>> >> >> >> > would
>>> >> >> >> > be
>>> >> >> >> > MUCH appreciated.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > Any other suggestions are appreciated.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > "Curious" wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> MCE 2005 runs on top of XP 2002. If you got to MC UI and
>>> >> >> >> >> check
>>> >> >> >> >> general
>>> >> >> >> >> about MC you will see that you are running MCE2005.
>>> >> >> >> >> If you have not installed an MCE compatible Decoder on >>> >> >> >> >> your
>>> >> >> >> >> MCE
>>> >> >> >> >> 2005
>>> >> >> >> >> system
>>> >> >> >> >> you will not not be able to watch live TV, Recorded TV or
>>> >> >> >> >> DVDs
>>> >> >> >> >> in
>>> >> >> >> >> MC.
>>> >> >> >> >> "bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >> >> >> >> wrote
>>> >> >> >> >> in
>>> >> >> >> >> message
>>> >> >> >> >> news:64396BC4-56C8-4539-B53E-E159CCE12EF8@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> >> >> >> > I'm having a problem viewing my local HD channels in >>> >> >> >> >> > Media
>>> >> >> >> >> > Center.
>>> >> >> >> >> > They
>>> >> >> >> >> > load
>>> >> >> >> >> > fine in setup (signals are also good), but when I try >>> >> >> >> >> > to
>>> >> >> >> >> > change
>>> >> >> >> >> > to
>>> >> >> >> >> > them
>>> >> >> >> >> > in
>>> >> >> >> >> > the guide, up pops a black screen and then this error:
>>> >> >> >> >> > Application
>>> >> >> >> >> > Failure. A
>>> >> >> >> >> > Critical Media Center process has failed. Please >>> >> >> >> >> > restart
>>> >> >> >> >> > your
>>> >> >> >> >> > computer
>>> >> >> >> >> > and
>>> >> >> >> >> > try again. If the problem persists contact your >>> >> >> >> >> > hardware
>>> >> >> >> >> > manufacturer
>>> >> >> >> >> > for
>>> >> >> >> >> > further assisstance.
>>> >> >> >> >> > I have contacted them and have not received much help >>> >> >> >> >> > at
>>> >> >> >> >> > all.
>>> >> >> >> >> > They
>>> >> >> >> >> > tell
>>> >> >> >> >> > me
>>> >> >> >> >> > it has to be a Media Center problem. Nice. I'm running >>> >> >> >> >> > a
>>> >> >> >> >> > TV
>>> >> >> >> >> > Wonder
>>> >> >> >> >> > 650
>>> >> >> >> >> > Combo
>>> >> >> >> >> > with the latest drivers and Windows XP Media Center
>>> >> >> >> >> > Edition
>>> >> >> >> >> > 2005
>>> >> >> >> >> > with
>>> >> >> >> >> > Service
>>> >> >> >> >> > Pack 3 and .NET Framework 2.0. Although my system
>>> >> >> >> >> > properties
>>> >> >> >> >> > say
>>> >> >> >> >> > it's
>>> >> >> >> >> > Media
>>> >> >> >> >> > Center Edition 2002 which I don't understand >>> >> >> >> >> > either...lol.
>>> >> >> >> >> > Any
>>> >> >> >> >> > help
>>> >> >> >> >> > with
>>> >> >> >> >> > this
>>> >> >> >> >> > problem (and why my OS is identified incorrectly as >>> >> >> >> >> > well)
>>> >> >> >> >> > would
>>> >> >> >> >> > be
>>> >> >> >> >> > MUCH

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