Re: can't view HD (ATSC) Channels in XP Media Center

Hello again all. Thanks for helping. I DO have the ATI TV Wonder 650 Combo
PCI-E installed. That is what's so frustrating. I HAVE HAD it working before
for almost 2 months. When I upgraded my hard drive and reinstalled my WIndows
XP Media Center 2005 is when I started receiving the problems. Also,
reinstalling the cards, etc. I thought I detailed all of this already.
Curious, Media Center asks if you have a analog OR digital conection for
cable. It then gives you an analog or digital channel line-up based on your
entry. That's why I think you have to have a digital subscription to cable in
order to receive the QAM channels.

"JW" wrote:

Curious,
I am afraid that you think baseman has the ATI 650 Pro PCI-E combo tuner and
it appears that he has the older 650 PRO Combo tuner instead
If this is the case then there are several problems first is that the older
card is in fact a Hybrid tuner card and not a Combo tuner card in the true
sense. This means that the two tuners can not be used concurrently and
therefore MC will only allow one of them to be configured.
Also this would mean that in order to configure the ATSC tuner that another
analog tuner would have to be configured on the system first since the user
is running MCE2005 and not Vista.
The above problems do not exist with the 650 PRO PCI-E combo tuner since the
two tuners are independent of each other and appear that way to either Vista
MC or to MCE2005.
It appears that the OP is best off to install the ATI TV application and use
to watch the OTA ATSC digital channels and use MC to watch the analog
channels from his cable connection.
"Curious >" <<spammenot@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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To receive your unencrypted QAM channels you need to use the ATI
application you can not get them with MC?
"bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Ok, so even if I don't subscribe to digital cable (only basic) OR have a
cable box (only the cable directly into my tuner card and a powered
antenna
into my ATSC input connector for hD channels) I can STILL receive Qam
digital
cable channels?
Then, what I thought was right, I don't NEED to have CCC installed in
order
to view my chanells. That makes sense because I never HAVE had CCC
running
when both my cable and HD channels were working, just Media Center.
So, what you reccommend I use to VIEW my cable digital qam channels, if
possible. I do have Titan TV (just not installed) also I d/l Cyberlink
Live
(it's new) today. Thank you for your continued help : )

"Curious" wrote:

You receive cable which contains both analog and digital cable signals.
It
is the tuner or STB which determines if you get analog or digital
channels
or both.
The CCC control center controls the output from your ATI graphics card
to
your TV. It has nothing to do with the inputs from your Combo tuner
card.
There are no ATSC digital channels available over cable only QAM digital
channels.
To receive ATSC you must have an antenna connected to the ATSC/QAM input
connector on your Combo card.
"bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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First off, I do not receive digital cable so I don't know if it is
possible
to receive digital cable channels? Also, I'm not sure if Titan TV is
the
SAME
as the Catalst Control Center or if it is seperate software. That is
why
I'm
trying to find someone who really KNOWS the ATI TV/Video cards and how
they
are setup, how they function etc. ATI is VERY confusing and
frustrating as
to
how to install, which software/drviers to use and the customer service
is
absolutely ATROCIOUS!

"Curious" wrote:

If the TitanTV application is the one that came with the card then
yes
that
is what I want you to install and try.
It should also allow you to receive clearQAM HD channels from you
cable
provider.
Which you may want to do instead of using an antenna connected to the
ATSC
OTA tuner on your 1600.
"bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
message
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Curious, that is why I am frustrated. I AM using the latest tuner
drivers
from the ATI website. Do you think I should install the Titan TV
application
and try that? I've never used it before so I'm not familiar with
how it
works. Thanks for your help again.

"Curious" wrote:

I realized that it is the latest drivers for you tuner that you
need
to
install and not the latest drivers for your graphics card.
Regretfully I do not have any other ideas if the ATI TV
application
does
not
work independently of the MC TV application.
"bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
message
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I do have the Titan TV installer in my ATI folder but I'm afraid
to
install
it! I have NOT had good luck using ATI CCC before (it has never
worked
and
always screwed up my viewing in MC) so I haven't tried that
either.
I
think
every time I had to install the CCC it would install or
reinstall
drivers
I
either had or didn't need (i.e. WMD drivers and such) I never
used
to
need
it
though, when both my HD and cable channels worked. I could
always
view
them
in MC.
Yes, my local channels are listed starting with 1000, they just
show
a
black screen when I try to tune to them and then I get the
Application
error.
Also, yes I am using the 8.7 Catalyst drivers.

"Curious" wrote:

Do you also have the ATI TV package installed and can you watch
both
OTA
analog and OTA digital channels using their app when you have
an
antenna
connected to both coax inputs?
Do your local OTA digital channels show up starting with
channel
number
1000
in MC?
What release of the ATI CCC drivers are you currently using? I
believe
8.7
is the latest release.
"bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
message
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Thanks for responding. I AM watching cable TV though (whcih
was
also
detected
by setup) so I think my decoder is ok. I have always used
Power
DVD
decoder.
I was using 5.0 which was standard on my Dell and then when I
got
it
back
from the shop he had installed 7.0 which I obviously like the
software
better. 5.0 wasn't working either when I had it in the shop.
Also,
When
I
run
Windows Decoder Checkup this is what I get:

ffdshow Vieo Decoder: MP10 Com-NO ffdshow.ax 1.0.3.1418 MCE
Comp-NO
Cyberlink Video/SP Dec: " " -YES CLVsd.ax
6.0.0.3614
"
"
-YES
GPL MPEG-1/2 Decoder: " " -NO GplMpgDec.ax
0.1.2.0 "
"
-NO
ffdshow raw video filter " " -NO ffdshow.ax
1.0.3.1418
"
" -NO
PP Video Decoder " " -NO ppGenericVSD.ax
6.0.0.33.13
"
-YES
Cyberlink SAC Video Decoder " -YES CLVSD.ax 6.0.0.2122
"
"
-YES

I find it weird that no ATI decoders are listed (they were
before
I
upgraded
my hard drive) but then again they always showed not
compatible
as
well. I
am
running a ATI Radeon 2400 PRO for my video card and the TV
card
again
is a
ATI TV Wonder 650 Combo with updated drivers. Any other
suggestions
would
be
MUCH appreciated.






Any other suggestions are appreciated.

"Curious" wrote:

MCE 2005 runs on top of XP 2002. If you got to MC UI and
check
general
about MC you will see that you are running MCE2005.
If you have not installed an MCE compatible Decoder on your
MCE
2005
system
you will not not be able to watch live TV, Recorded TV or
DVDs
in
MC.
"bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
in
message
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I'm having a problem viewing my local HD channels in Media
Center.
They
load
fine in setup (signals are also good), but when I try to
change
to
them
in
the guide, up pops a black screen and then this error:
Application
Failure. A
Critical Media Center process has failed. Please restart
your
computer
and
try again. If the problem persists contact your hardware
manufacturer
for
further assisstance.
I have contacted them and have not received much help at
all.
They
tell
me
it has to be a Media Center problem. Nice. I'm running a
TV
Wonder
650
Combo
with the latest drivers and Windows XP Media Center
Edition
2005
with
Service
Pack 3 and .NET Framework 2.0. Although my system
properties
say
it's
Media
Center Edition 2002 which I don't understand either...lol.
Any
help
with
this
problem (and why my OS is identified incorrectly as well)
would
be
MUCH
.

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